Please review www.themebeach.com

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    My site is www.themebeach.com.
    Premium themes and corporate hosting service. Any feedback is appreciated. :)
    Thanks.
     
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  2. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Word of warning, I tend to give the Simon Cowell / Gordon Ramsey type reviews, so needless to say with the two and a half minute pageload here I'm NOT going to be all that kind... just remember this is tough love.

    Once the blasted thing finally loaded first thing I noticed was everything just kinda seems slapped on the page willy-nilly with nothing resembling consistency of style or layout. The gray on gray in the footer area is well below accessibility norms, and the use of px metric fonts across the entire page further decreases the page's usefulness, and the attempt at responsive layout while cute, is disastrously broken here at just about everything smaller than 1280 width.

    Under the bonnet it's everything I've come to expect from the train wreck disastser mating of turdpress to HTML 5 -- multiple stylesheets increasing the number of handshakes for *** knows what, endless IE conditional comment crap just so the developer can proudly proclaim their ignorance of how to use CSS and Javascript, endless pointless DIV for nothing, endless pointless classes for nothing, little if anything resembling semantic markup, the pointless HTML 5 structural tags , inaccessible/incomplete forms, gibberish use of numbered heading tags, paragraphs around non-paragraph elements, STRONG around elements that are not/should not be recieving emphasis, numbered headings around non-heading elements, DIV around heading elements, and naturally the endless pointless javascript for NOTHING of actual value to visitors.

    Which is how it ends up using 24k of markup on 2.24k of plaintext and less than a dozen content images -- two or three times as much code as should be needed... that the whole homepage then comes in at a massive ungodly 1.7 MEGABYTES in 64 files means I would advise throwing the entire thing away and starting over from scratch... since that's anywhere from twelve seconds to a minute of handshaking ALONE, not counting file transfers -- and since the average file transfer from your server (you need better hosting too) appears to be in excess of 3 seconds, that's more like three minutes for most people just to download one page...

    It's bad -- though entirely what I've come to expect when I see turdpress and 'themes' in the same sentence with a HTML 5 based website... given that WP is nube predation, and websites built from off the shelf 'themes' are most always coding disasters and inaccessible trash.
     
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    CodeShop Active Member

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    It also connect with several APIs to process your requests. Please check your internet connection and if you are still facing speed issue, please PM me as update me further about the issue and I will be glad to assist you. 1.6 M isn't much bandwidth because in these days no one use dial-up connections. ;)

    Coding of frontend is fine as we can compared it with several visual techniques. We aren't using web editor to add content. This is entirely a different story.

    I have also checked speed with google analytic speed test and it scores 10/10.
     
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    Karen May Jones Prominent Member

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    I didn't have any speed issues. However, the slider at the top left of the home page does not load for me.
     
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    CodeShop Active Member

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    Can you please tell me what web browser are you using? Slider is present on two pages. 1 home page and 2nd Theme details page. Can you please specify page url? Thank you :)
     
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    Hi, when I said home page, I meant http://www.themebeach.com ... I just revisited and the slider loaded okay (instantly) -- Maybe I had too many tabs open in my browser? oops. I am using IE ten, I think. Its the newest on windows 8.

    I registered on your site, and I would like to report that I had a problem with the captcha. It was not aligned properly in its window. I could only see the bottom part of the letters. I refreshed the captcha several times and still couldn't get it to align. Then I changed my browser window size to 125% and then the captcha instantly aligned in its box properly. - and stayed aligned properly when I changed back to 100 percent browser window. Have you tried the registration page to see the captcha perform? (in IE 10).
     
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    Yes, you are right. We will fix this captcha issue soon, although it is related to alignment only and registration process is functional. Thank you.
     
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    Do we need to learn to speak klingon to navigate?
     
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    lol what's wrong there? Any reference...
     
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    I'm not sure about your registration process. The process removed the spaces from my user name and the site will not let me log in.
     
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    There is a message that you will received password in your email. Please check your mail box for password.
     
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    I cannot mention your username here. You can contact online support. You can find it's button at bottom of right corner of website. f you are facing any issue please let me know. I have forward your email address to live support promotions department. Please contact and get your promotion details. Thank you
     
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    One thing I want to point out is that white text on a red background can be a bit hard on the eyes if you do any extended reading.

    Cleaning up your footer would be nice. It has some stuff you probably don't need in there.

    I would reduce the number of quadrants you have. Something like take the slider out and make the 'find quality themes' part centred and increase the text size.

    just some thoughts
     
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    There is one more section of home page which needs to upload. We are preparing for that services and when we will upload its design, everything will match with the graphics.

    The footer contains latest designs, products links, tweets and online support. These things are although required. Can you be more specific about the footer?
    I am willing to get more suggestions from you.
    Thank you for your review.
     
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    That is one of the LIES that I've been hearing for a decade now; setting aside the large swaths of the United States like Coos County, NH or much of the rocky mountain states where 33.6 dialup is a GOOD DAY -- you have to keep in mind all the other bandwidth restricted devices that massive train wreck of a site is just going to piss off; like people tethered to 3g and 4g connects -- like people on 3g, 4g or even DSL/Cable that have dataplan limits that cut you off or start charging an arm and a leg for overages... like the mobile users for whom your images decoded are larger than their free RAM -- or just the folks who might be on a shared broadband connect where two other folks on the same connect are watching netflix, or where 20+ people are trying to share at once like down at Starbucks or Panera Bread...

    But more important than throughput is file counts!

    REGARDLESS of the speed of a connection, if the number of handshakes is high and the ping time to the server is low, you're looking at massive overhead regardless of the connections alleged 'speed'... I'm on a 22mbps connection, and your page takes > 2 minutes to load because I'm seeing 500ms ping times, so that's around 2 SECONDS of handshaking PER FILE. Even if handshakes were down at the 'normal guesstimate' of 200ms, I'd still be looking at 20 seconds or more just to load a page that has little if any actual content on it.

    Not sure what the devil 'visual techniques' have to do with the code of the front-end... but that code is NOT fine as it is NOT semantic, does no real separation of presentation from content, provides NO graceful degradation, is knee deep in endless javascript for NOTHING, classes for NOTHING, DIV for nothing, and on the whole reeks of the typical turdpress "I can haz intarnets?" -- If anything it's gibberish if you understand even the smallest parts of logical document structure, logical heading orders, proper use of FORM elements, and of course separation of presentation from content. It is a laundry list of how NOT to build a website!

    Does Google Analytics have a different speed analysis than the developer one or something? I thought Google page speed was out of 100, not 10... NOT that I'd trust either since they put more weight on how many goofy tricks like whitespace compression, dicking with caching headers and use of CDN's than they do how long the page actually takes to load.

    That said, your site only gets 57/100, and the biggest problem? SERVER RESPONSE TIME:

    https://developers.google.com/speed...tp_3A_2F_2Fwww.themebeach.com_2F&mobile=false

    Where much of your static content is seeing handshaking time akin to what I saw -- you've got some static elements that are taking more than two seconds in HANDSHAKING ALONE.

    You go to the critical path explorer, and you'll see they're taking almost 13 seconds with google's "More connection speed than god sitting on top of the chicago backbone" -- JHVH help two thirds the people with normal DSL in suburban America with their likely 3 minute or more page load.

    Again though, NOT that I trust their overall rating -- I've seen them give pages with 30 second page loads according to their waterfall (critical path explorer) 100/100 just because they pulled all the goofy tricks like using a CDN, while at the same time giving sites with 1.2 second page loads 30/100 just because they don't waste time on page-cache http headers and other such idiotic nonsense that end up being little more than trying to sweep the REAL problem under the rug.

    Which is why my own sites rarely get more than 75/100, because they ding me for not setting expirations on my static image and CSS files... as if there is something horrifically wrong with the browser defaults or that somehow magically everyone is allocating gigabytes of cache instead of the megabytes browsers use real world... which is why all that cache-control idiocy is a bunch of 100% grade A farm fresh...

    In any case <rant off>, You're blowing 1.7 MEGABYTES in 60+ files on what by my guesstimates should be under a quarter of a meg in MAYBE two dozen files -- the markup being your typical fat bloated turdpress train wreck of garbage being 24k to deliver 2.4k of plaintext, two form elements and maybe a dozen actual content images being anywhere from two to three times as much 'front end code' as should have been needed to do the job.

    To be brutally frank, it reeks of "Go back and learn some HTML and CSS" -- though again that's par for the course on anything built in turdpress.
     
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    I meant was it possible to reduce some what is it in. It's a bit crowded.

    I noticed it more because the length of some of the pages were short.

    For example, do you need the twitter widget there. I would test to see if people actually click on the things in the footer and go from there. If they don't much, why not reduce.
     
    Iain R, Jun 18, 2013 IP