1. Advertising
    y u no do it?

    Advertising (learn more)

    Advertise virtually anything here, with CPM banner ads, CPM email ads and CPC contextual links. You can target relevant areas of the site and show ads based on geographical location of the user if you wish.

    Starts at just $1 per CPM or $0.10 per CPC.

Please help me to Understand

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by whatsonbali, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. #1
    Hi
    My web developer just rebuilt - redesigned my client website and I'm not really happy with the whole thing because My developer and I first wanted a nice clean responsive website, and the owner (my client) want the layout compability. The older website look worse but this new one look so outdated too, I think. Anyone agree with me?
    Here is the site http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/

    can anyone expert give me solution or advise and critics whether the website actually look really bad or not too bad ? And what should I do more to make it look better? In term of layout please.

    Thank you thank you so much if you could spare time to read and give me the thoughts
    SEMrush
     
    whatsonbali, Apr 27, 2017 IP
    SEMrush
  2. Pierre Barnard

    Pierre Barnard Active Member

    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    61
    #2
    I think it looks fine!
     
    Pierre Barnard, Apr 27, 2017 IP
  3. PoPSiCLe

    PoPSiCLe Illustrious Member

    Messages:
    4,630
    Likes Received:
    725
    Best Answers:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    470
    #3
    Well, it doesn't look too bad, but your web-dev don't really know jack... there is such amounts of bloat on that page... 6 classes on body, for christ's sake. The menu isn't good either, the fade-in/out is a bit choppy and slow - kudos for having a page that works fine without javascript (although the images doesn't show). It's not a complete disaster, but it's not great either (code-wise). It doesn't look too bad, though.
     
    PoPSiCLe, Apr 28, 2017 IP
  4. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    3,549
    Best Answers:
    103
    Trophy Points:
    665
    #4
    Your developer knows jack shit about responsiveness

    [​IMG]

    The colours are nice but if I can't read the text or navigate then you've lost a huge opportunity.

    At the very least you want people to be able to say to their friends "I'm thinking of going to this place, what do you think?" And hand their phone over so their friends can see the photos, room options etc
     
    sarahk, Apr 28, 2017 IP
  5. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

    Messages:
    9,131
    Likes Received:
    1,696
    Best Answers:
    239
    Trophy Points:
    515
    #5
    Typical bloated ineptly developed slow loading train wreck of developer ineptitude. Whoever built that has zero business developing websites. From the uselessly inaccessible fixed width layout, uselessly undersized fixed metric fonts, and massive sections of illegible colour contrasts, it reeks of a mix of having an artist under the DELUSION that they are a designer having teamed up with a scripttard who doens't know how to keep it in their pants.

    As evidenced by the bat-shit nutters 2.6 megabyte pageload (that balloons up to over 4 megs post-load) spanning 64 files (ballooning up to over 120 files post-load)... to deliver 2.4k of plaintext and not even a dozen content images? DERP... in particular the MASSIVE scripttard bloat of 1.4 megabytes spanning 24 separate files reeks of developer ineptitude of the highest order, only to be matched by the ignorant halfwit nonsense that is the 578k of CSS spanning 14 separate files... All those separate files meaning for many users it takes over a minute for that mess to load.

    The HTML of course is the usual scam artist bullshit typical when you encounter the horribly outdated numb-nutz idiocy that is "960 grid' mated to turdpress and jQuery.... hence the endless pointless classes for nothing, endless pointless DIV for nothing, stylesheet <link> being sent to "all", outdated attributes, complete lack of anything remotely resembling semantics, graceful degradation, or accessibility... It's hardly a shock the site is vomiting up 42k of HTML to do anywhere from 8 to 10k's job....

    You add in the massive CSS and Scripting bloat, and it quite easily is wasting two megabytes in 40 files to do the job of 128k or less in three files JUST from the coding perspective!

    Whoever built that has NO huffing business making websites, and has done nothing more than saddle you folks up and yelled "giddy-up" as they rode you down the path to failure.

    Be thankful you're not in the UK or Canada and this isn't for a public utility, government organization, or anything considered 'essential' as you'd be open to fines and even litigation over the failure to meet even the simplest of accessibility minimums.

    ... which is why if you brought this to me as a client, I'd be suggesting the Old Yeller treatment. Drag it 'round back o' the woodshed, put the shotgun to it's ear, and blow its brains out the other side. You've been scammed.... hard. They ****ed you up the *** harder than titanium alloy, and didn't even have the common courtesy to give you a reach-around.

    Seriously, whatever sleazy halfwit dirtbag made that site? I'd toss them in jail and throw away the key on general principle. They do not know enough about websites to be making them, and if they are making sites for other people and claiming to know what they are doing, they are doing nothing more than scamming people who just don't know any better, giving them all the business legitimacy of Amway, Mary Kay, or late night real estate infomercials.

    Though to be fair, that describes 90%+ of the halfwits using turdpress, 95% of the mouth-breathers using jQuery, and 99.9999999% of the dumbasses still using grids or the "960 width" asshattery!

    ... and anyone who ACTUALLY knows how to build websites will tell you the same thing the moment they see code like this:

    
    <html lang="en-US" class="html_boxed fixed_layout av-preloader-disabled av-default-lightbox  html_header_top html_logo_center html_bottom_nav_header html_menu_right html_custom html_header_sticky html_header_shrinking_disabled html_header_topbar_active html_mobile_menu_phone html_disabled html_header_searchicon_disabled html_content_align_center html_header_unstick_top html_header_stretch html_minimal_header html_entry_id_435 av-no-preview ">
    
    Code (markup):
    or this:
    
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='beds24-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/plugins/beds24-online-booking/theme-files/beds24.css?ver=4.7.4' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='jquery-style-css'  href='https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1.8.2/themes/smoothness/jquery-ui.css?ver=4.7.4' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-grid-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/grid.css?ver=2' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-base-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/base.css?ver=2' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-layout-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/layout.css?ver=2' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-scs-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/shortcodes.css?ver=2' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-popup-css-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/js/aviapopup/magnific-popup.css?ver=1' type='text/css' media='screen' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-media-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/js/mediaelement/skin-1/mediaelementplayer.css?ver=1' type='text/css' media='screen' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-print-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/print.css?ver=1' type='text/css' media='print' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-dynamic-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/uploads/dynamic_avia/enfold.css?ver=590331366b544' type='text/css' media='all' />
    <link rel='stylesheet' id='avia-custom-css'  href='http://mandalabrunyisland.com.au/wp-content/themes/enfold/css/custom.css?ver=2' type='text/css' media='all' />
    
    Code (markup):
    Or even just this:
    
    <style type='text/css'>
    
    Code (markup):
    Pretty much your coder went full Pakled... you never go full Pakled.
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2017
    deathshadow, Apr 28, 2017 IP
    PoPSiCLe, sarahk and malky66 like this.
  6. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

    Messages:
    25,538
    Likes Received:
    3,549
    Best Answers:
    103
    Trophy Points:
    665
    #6
    @whatsonbali it's never fun reading a @deathshadow review but you're an aussie so you know about plain talking folk. Suck it up, take action and this kiwi chick can't wait to see the next iteration.
     
    sarahk, Apr 29, 2017 IP
    kk5st likes this.
  7. mmerlinn

    mmerlinn Notable Member

    Messages:
    2,415
    Likes Received:
    353
    Best Answers:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    290
    #7
    This is the kind of crap that happens when 'developers' are paid by HOW MANY lines of code they are writing instead of HOW EFFICIENT and HOW CORRECT the code is.

    Reminds me of the main-frame coders being paid by the lines of code they wrote. They HAD to bloat their code to justify their pay and their jobs. And, YES, THEY were THIEVES, also, and also should have been jailed and the key tossed away.

    Also reminds me of the current state of computing where the coders KEEP REINVENTING the wheel to JUSTIFY keeping their jobs. More thieves that should be locked up forever.
     
    mmerlinn, Apr 29, 2017 IP
    sarahk likes this.
  8. kk5st

    kk5st Prominent Member

    Messages:
    3,484
    Likes Received:
    367
    Best Answers:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    335
    #8
    Puhleaze, Sarah. Jason's commentaries are always entertaining (unless you're at the pointy end). Let us hope the OP does suck it up and not take personal offense as so many neophytes do.
     
    kk5st, Apr 29, 2017 IP
    sarahk likes this.
  9. qwikad.com

    qwikad.com Illustrious Member Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    6,125
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    Best Answers:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    400
    #9
    It looks like a typical WP template. I hope you didn't pay too much for putting the old contents into a new template. You could have done it yourself for free.
     
    qwikad.com, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  10. machinist_911

    machinist_911 Active Member

    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    16
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    80
    Digital Goods:
    1
    #10
    What you now need to do is first make a clear picture of the the issues you have with your site. Other members have pointed some of them quite brilliantly. Then approach your designer/developer to fix these issues. Sorry to say but for a professional site, this is sad.
    The site is based on WordPress, so you also have the option to search for a suitable theme for yourself at https://www.wordpress.org/themes
     
    machinist_911, Apr 30, 2017 IP
  11. whatsonbali

    whatsonbali Active Member

    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    91
    #11
    Thanks. The content is new delivered from the owner of the property.
     
    whatsonbali, May 13, 2017 IP
  12. whatsonbali

    whatsonbali Active Member

    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    91
    #12
     
    whatsonbali, May 13, 2017 IP
  13. whatsonbali

    whatsonbali Active Member

    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    91
    #13
    @sarahk got ya. Thanks

    @deathshadow ❤️ For the comments.
    I'm reading this on Mother's Day
    I'll update you soon when the site fix. Great to hear many comments here, I'll take it seriously
    ✌️
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 13, 2017
    whatsonbali, May 13, 2017 IP