Please comment on my noobie theory/question

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by stellar1, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. #1
    Regarding sandbox, and google's trust of new sites, doesn't it make sense for google to trust sites that link TO other more trusted sites? I mean, everyone talks about incoming links as key, but isn't google going to say, "well, I am more likely to trust a new site that links to a good variety of trusted sites [like google, pubmed, wikipedia] rather than being self-centered (no outgoing links) or only linking to money-centric affiliate programs, product sites, etc.

    I just think google wants to reward quality content, and it would suspect websites that are self centered or only link to money-generating affiliates.

    I am new to this whole thing, and so don't have any reason to believe this conjecture other than by thinking strictly in terms of google's stated mission to reward good content. Perhaps someone has observed new, quality, outlinking sites that should-have-been-sandboxed sites that weren't really sandboxed.

    I don't know. Please comment on my thought?
     
    stellar1, Jan 23, 2011 IP
  2. webbrad

    webbrad Greenhorn

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    well we cannot judge anything without proper experiments. that is for search engine optimization too. google is big boy and no one can tell exactly what is the ranking factor and algorithm behind it.
     
    webbrad, Jan 25, 2011 IP
  3. DanAbbamont

    DanAbbamont Guest

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    This has nothing to do with the sandbox, but there is good reason to believe that relevant outbound links can count for on site SEO. It's not going to make or break you either way though.
     
    DanAbbamont, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  4. Safetyfirst

    Safetyfirst Active Member

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    I guess it is quite possible that you are right but no one can say it can it with confidence because google keeps changing their algo and we don't know much outgoing links affect our rankings.
     
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  5. palme

    palme Active Member

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    first that is not about sandbox, that's about Ranking, i.e if a site be linked from a higher rank site then this site take more rank, becuse of that aknowlagement from a higher rank site.

    2 - " I just think google wants to reward quality content, and it would suspect websites that are self centered or only link to money-generating affiliates."

    is not true, and quality content is not oppsite with you make money from your site.
     
    palme, Jan 26, 2011 IP
  6. jmbinfo

    jmbinfo Well-Known Member

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    Think of it as a mosaic. Separate it is just pieces of glass tile but together it creates a wonderful picture. SEO is the same. You need a little blue, yellow, orange, purple, and a great distribution of green ( inbound links ). Some things are weighted heavier than others but the collection of them all makes it really work. That being said, you could have 1 link from the NYTimes to 1 page with zero content and a photo with no outbound links and it will rank....very well. So, you have to start with inbound link acquisition from quality sources 1st and then start piecing the other parts together like outbound links, alt tags, H1/H2, titles, keyword density, etc. But, having "where your outbound links point" being a significant factor would be very easy to game. I'd just link to USAToday and Wikipedia on every website.
     
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  7. stellar1

    stellar1 Greenhorn

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    Thanks everyone for your comments. I was wishfully hoping there was a way to decrease sandbox time on my new domains.
     
    stellar1, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  8. NikkieFuente

    NikkieFuente Peon

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    Well outbound links also play a small part but the big picture focuses on the backlinks. It is not just about how many backlinks acquired per day that has an impact on SERPS but also the diversity of those backlinks. I believe that Google does not penalize having thousands of backlinks per day, in fact, if it does, then what will happen to Twitter, FB and others with a lot of backlinks gained per day.
     
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  9. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    Yes backlinks count much more than outgoing links, however the idea to link trusted pages and to have outgoing links as well I have heard from SEO companies working with us - actually I am giving now this to you for free. :p
     
    zlori, Feb 1, 2011 IP
  10. stellar1

    stellar1 Greenhorn

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    Since twitter and facebook are old sites, the sandbox effect is less prominent (or nonexistent) for them. I'm talking about new domains with thousands per day. I don't know google's algorithm, just trying to guess at it based on google's mission. Thanks for the reply.

    And thanks zlori for the free info!
     
    stellar1, Feb 2, 2011 IP
  11. unknownpray

    unknownpray Active Member

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    You are looking for an answer that only those people can answer who work Google like it is. Many of us might give you answers but they will not be actual facts, but based on the results of any experiment or experience we might have had in the past regarding the same matter. We learn from our mistakes but we can't predict the future.
     
    unknownpray, Sep 9, 2011 IP
  12. Sam Gilmore

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    Google still ranks websites in much the same way that they had in the past. Websites are judged on the quality of their inbound links and the quality of their content. Google will continue to change how they evaluate inbound links and content, but the basic elements of their rankings will remain the same.​
    While your website is in the sandbox, you should use this time to build your traffic using regular traffic building methods such as writing articles, building a strong community of visitors, and partnering with websites that offer some synergy to your visitors. During your time on probation, you have an excellent opportunity to build all the elements that cause websites to perform well in the search engines. When you finally do leave the sandbox, your website should be very well positioned within Google.​
     
    Sam Gilmore, Jan 26, 2012 IP
  13. rjpbseal

    rjpbseal Peon

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    I've found that ranking has more to do with your page's relevance to the keyword. Google can't directly judge the quality of your content. That's why backlinks are so important. Lots of backlinks mean that lots of people have found your content interesting, therefore it's of high quality.

    Your internal linking structure indicates to Google that your page is authoritative on the subject of your keyword. When you link from one page on your site to another page on your site, you're telling Google that you have more relevant information on your own site.

    Outgoing links to high authority sites are good, but if that's all you have, you're actually giving THEM more authority than you're getting FROM them.
     
    rjpbseal, Jan 31, 2012 IP