Since we (me and a friend) are in the data entry business (mostly populating oscommerece, carts, charts you name it), I'm planning on stepping up the plank and be in the directory submission business. But before that, I know I need to learn a lot of things. So if anyone is willing to help me out, I'd appreciate if you can answer a few questions. 1. How do you rate a directory as a good directory? PR or User rating? 2. Are there directory lists I can use and sort to submit websites readily? 3. Do most directories require email authentication? 4. What proof can I give a client that I've submitted to all the directories? 5. Do you think the income and time is worth it if I continue my plan? Those are the only things that bother me for now. I really don't want to just jump into something I can't finish. Which just reminds me of a job I just finished. 500+ products into 1 site in less than 24 hours. My blood just seem to love coffee. But anyway, if you have tips or experience you'd like to share, please do so. I guess everyone on DP would appreciate some knowhow from the experts. best jayL
A few things jump out... 1. Either compete on price (think pennies or fractions of pennies per submission) or quality - both is probably not going to work. 2. There are numerous directory of directory sites. The one favored by many directory owners is http://info.vilesilencer.com I think you best find a site (yours or a friends) and go through submitting the site to numerous directories before you launch this endeavor. Otherwise, you won't have a feel for what you are signing up for. It will also give you a better feel for how directory submissions can impact the submitted sites SERPs. Done right directory submissions will help you raise in rank, done wrong and your directory submissions (the content on the directory) end up competing against the your site for your own keywords. Read many of the complaints and comments in this forum and you will see what drives directory owners crazy which will tell you how not to submit listings. If you don't plan on doing it manually, don't bother.
YMC : Thank you for the informative reply. I will look into this seriously and you are right, to really learn something is to get your hands dirty. I will keep that in mind. I'll base my studies also with the lists of complains. thanks
I routinely use a directory submission service. I have been using the same person for several sites and have developed a level of trust with his service. I pay around $40 for sumission to 250 "free" directories and feel it's a great value for the amount of time it saves me. I would say I get accepted into a little better that half of the submissions. I get a a report of the successful submissions at the end and unscientifically compare the submissions to the "accepted" emails I receive from the directories. This is not very accurate since many directories do not send a status email to you.
It's good plan to start directory submission service 1. obviously by seeing its PR 2. there are lot of free directories which u can find out by searching 3. yeah..u must have an valid email id 4. most of the directories will send approval or else u need to manually check in directories in the specified categories where u have submitted 5. ofcourse u can get income and u can save time by using some automated tools/software like roboform software, IBP tools etc.
I was in the situation where I was intending to code a plugin. When you mentioned roboform, it's actually what I was thinking. It does save a lot of time copy pasting into forms. But I think it needs a little polishing the first time I tried to use it. I guess I need to try and use it for my site. Article submission and directory submission? What's the difference? thanks
I'm also going to start a directory submission service. I will charge $1/directory for manual submission. Do your guys think webmasters can accept it? I'm working about 8 hrs per day to submit my website to directories, and normally it takes about 10 min. to submit a directory (I will browse the whole categories to find the most suitable ones, and go to that category to check whether other websites are similar to mine, and then submit and record it to excel file in case duplicate submission), so maximum I can submit to about 40 directories per day. I can't believe why some body only charges about $30 to submit to about 500 directories. By automatic submission software?
I think it's a matter of getting used to the routine and knowing the directory itself. Like in my job, I only charge $0.25 to $0.35 per data entry of product into an xcart or oscommerce website. The normal person would take 5 to 10 minutes. It takes me a few seconds to do it regardless of what details and options the client gives me. It's really a matter of getting used to the submission theory and how to do it.
A few thoughts as a user of these services... I agree, vilesilencer is a great place to start, that is certainly one of the lists I consult and would expect a submission service to use. hhheng -- Sorry but $1 per submission is too much. You can get a great service for $40 for 250 sumissions as LakeCountry mentions. This work is often done in India or elsewhere in Asia where the $ goes a lot further. jayL -- I would also expect these services to be manual. I'm not aware of automated options that offer a high level of acceptance to the type of directories that customers want to be submitted into.
1. How do you rate a directory as a good directory? PR or User rating? Must be SEo Friendly and Non Reciprocal 2. Are there directory lists I can use and sort to submit websites readily? I posted quite a few lists here see them 3. Do most directories require email authentication? Very few require email authentication 4. What proof can I give a client that I've submitted to all the directories? The list of directorys you submited to and mail used to see confirmation and aprovals 5. Do you think the income and time is worth it if I continue my plan? I earn enouf to be satisfy from this kind of projects combined with litlle SEO 1$/directory very high 10 minuts very hign it takes 1-2 minutes max I charge like 30 cent/submissions but it can reach 15-20 depending on the amount of directorys
I think 1. PR, google links .... other, msn, yahoo, Free or paid, SEo Friendly and Non Reciprocal, Univeral categories or No 2. It is a lot of them 3. Very few require email authentication 4. 1. The list of directorys and mail used to see confirmation. 2. list receprical links 3. For "strange" clients it is possible the kept pages successful submission. 5.800-1000 Directories with AllSubmitter - 8 hours. How many there is your time?
That's fairly slow. With practice you will be able to do this faster, as you get to recognise which scripts a directory is using, and therefore whether you need to browse to a category or if you can just submit straight from the home page. Another thing you can only learn by doing is which directories are good to submit to and likely to approve you, and which are likely to be a pain in the neck. The list at Vilesilencer is constantly changing, on a daily basis. You get the best juice out of it if you use it regularly and keep up with which directories are down, moved to paid, and which new ones are added.