Its been 5+ years since i ever even thought about using frames in a website. they're outdated and just not good. However I am trying to create a old looking site for fun. Back then in 1998 and so almost everyone used 800x600px screen res. so frames mostly all looked the same on each and every desktop... however that isn't the case today. usually on my sites now if i want to guarantee that they'll be showing correctly on every screen res i use a div wrapper or container, and it works out well. Since i haven't been messing with frames or learning anything about them in the many previous years, i have no idea if you can do similar thing with them? What i'd like to do is center the frame set in the middle of the browser so that they stay in that container and not stretch to fit the screen or anything. Usually we have a top frame, left frame for navigation, and content frame on the right. Now that content frame expands to fit the screen, an d it jsut looks ugly. Especially on larger screen res. I doubt this this is possible. I've already tired using the regular div containers and wrappers that i've been using and it hadn't worked. I am thinking the only way i can get this to work is to use the flash frames and do it that way, which is more complicated and might not be worth it since this is just a "fun" little project. thanks