Pilot of plane that dropped A-bomb dies

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  1. ReadyToGo

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    #41
    So murder is justified if it's done in a fraction of a second.
    They were forced.
    Is English your second language?
    Only the military refused to surrender. Emperor Hirohito was ready to surrender. In fact, he opposed the war to begin with.
    I agree. I have a problem with you stating that it is fine for innocent civilians to get killed in a war for what its country has done. Should innocent Americans die for what's being done in Iraq? Of course not, but your logic would be in support of that.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #42
    So you believe instead of dropping the bomb on Japan we should of invaded the main land? Did you ever READ about that actually or do your views blind you from research?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

    The Japanese planned an all-out defense of Kyūshū, with little left in reserve for any subsequent defense operations. Casualty predictions varied widely but were extremely high for both sides: depending on the degree to which Japanese civilians resisted the invasion, estimates ran into the millions for American casualties[1] and the tens of millions for Japanese casualties.

    Ya, the bomb was the worse choice.
     
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  3. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #43
    Did I say it's justified?

    Yeah, they were forced. But if they were forced in the war, they were forced to die by the same people.

    Third..
    Why? Are you not familiar with the uses of 'Evilest' ?

    I have a problem with everyone mentioning as if only Japanese civilians were killed, or only Japanese civilians were 'innocent'.

    You want to talk about Civilian deaths in WWII, start with Chinese civilians, discuss the atrocities committed against them. Japanese fall 6th or 7th in terms of volume.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #44
    Your right, read about the Allied land invasion of Japan 10x as many people would of died and suffered.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall
     
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #45
    http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/peace/the-atomic-bombings-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki

     
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    #47
    No one is claiming that. At least I'm not.
    That's not even germane to the subject. This thread is about bombs being dropped in Japan. If you want to talk about the Asian Holocaust, go start your own thread.
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #48
    I believe it's directly related to this thread, it can and should of been brought into consideration after the crimes the japs allowed to take place. Show me one source of valid historical documentation that shows any anti-war japs at the time of WW2.
     
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    #49
    The thread is about the death of the pilot who piloted the B-29 superfortress.

    He didn't feel regret in his entire life for piloting the bomber on that mission. He died at 92. May he RIP. That's all, Good bye, the story ends here.

    But if you want to discuss the bombing of Japan, and killing of civilians, then one have to seek the cause for the effect.

    You are trying to discuss the effect without considering the cause.
     
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    #50
    If you know anything about Japan during WWII, you'd know that Emperor Hirohito was against the war. The Japanese military refused to surrender even after the bombs were dropped, but Hirohito put an end to it.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #51
    More than likely Heaven.. The reality is, in doing his job, serving his country, he saved the lives of nearly 500,000 or more Americans, as this war would likely have lingered on and on for a few more years resulting in huge loses of life on both sides.

    Truman recognized, that, so too did the men and women that served under him. If you call it murder, having no regrets does sound pretty harsh.. But when you call it what it was, which was; an end to the war, I'm sure he slept just fine at night..

    If he had any regrets, I don't think he would have been around 92 years...
     
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    #52
    If you use that logic you can even say Hitler was right !!!

    only the good die young :)
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #53
    Well let's see, the pilot carried out a mission for which he was obligated. Hitler sought world domination and the extermination of the Jew's... If you cannot see a difference, God help you...
     
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    #54
    I agree. They wanted to show the world that they "The United States of America" is the strongest power in the World. But I don't know why they chose a city instead of military installation.

    But why did they bomb in the first place when it has been proven ny investigators that Japan was ready to surrender since April 1945. Maybe they just wanted to bomb them anyway. FOR VENGENCE
     
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  15. Truth777

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    #55

    So, sad you believe "he was obliged"...

    Only an EXTREEM HEARTLESS BLOOD THIRSTY IDIOT will go on a mission like that.
     
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  16. Mia

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    #56
    I did not say "obliged"... Stop being so negative.
     
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    #57
    The truth is, those bombs were dropped because US was already competing with Russia and vice versa! Russians were closing in to Japan and US had to do something to come there first and they dropped the bomb.
    There is no moral in war, never was and it never will be. US thought this has to be done to prevent russkies to put Japan under their influence since by conventional war russians were closer to Japan than US and they had to hurry up a little...
    All that sh*t about military objects is pure intern history for "domestic US market" :D

    Anyone who says differently is either lying or is ignorant, brainwashed and did not read enough in his life ;)
     
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