Hi All. I have been working in making good quality websites for a long time now. My oldest website has more than 5 years, and it´s a reference in it´s theme. It´s been even quoted on themed magazines. But hosting here in Brazil is very expensive. I pay about $50 for a 1GB/ 20GB transfer server. With problems with performance on my hosting, I started looking for a VPS hosting, that would suit me better. Found one. $35 a month, 10GB disk space 300GB transfer. Terminal Server Acess. BUT it was located in the US. Did a resarch and some people said it would matter, some people said it would not. I thought with myself: Google it´s a Big company capable of writing very inteligent algorithims so he would know that if a site is written in brazilian portugues and has .com.br in it´s domain, it´s a brazilian website. So, I started transfering my websites. At first I saw a increase in traffic, since the server where a lot faster than the old one. And then, it HIT. My 5 year, first page website sank in the rankings nowhere to be found. Even when i search for the NAME of the website "formaturasweb" it appears in about page 5, after ALL the blogs and other pages that talk ABOUT my website. It even appears after a spammy formaturasweb.com with no content in it. I thought it was something related with some errors that ocurred in my pages when the server was changed and took me about 2 weeks to locate and correct. I was sad, but still had about 40 websites ranking well. And then... about a week after... It hit ALL websites. ALL OF THEM. Even websites witch where not linked with eatch other. What changed? Google Cache date. All sites have been rechached AFTER the IP update. Coincidence? I don´t think so. So I´m reverting half of the websites to the old hosting (Yes, they already had deleted all the content) and looking at what will hapen next. Wish me luck.
I don't think anyone would disagree that your location determines which data center that you see for google. Good luck with your switch though.
Just be a little cautious that you aren't interpreting some other changes at Google, which may be happening at the same time, as a result from your web site moving. You might be right... but if you aren't... moving back and forth a few times will really cheese you off.
That´s the problem. How to be Certain about Google Serps?? I think nobody is certain about nothing around here.
The major search engines use two common criteria in determining geo-location: (1) the presence of a Country Code Top Level Domain Name ("CC TLD" as in "somesite.com.br"), or (2) the physical location of the server that hosts the site based on its IP address. Google has said in the past that they would sometimes consider the domain registration data, but their website no longer mentions that factor. But nothing else has any effect. Language is a completely separate issue and is not considered when they look at geo-location. If you have a .br top level domain name, Google should see it as being in Brazil. You can test this by using "site:www.yoursite.com.br" and selecting the "pages from Brazil" option. If your pages still appear, your site is recognized as being in Brazil. If your pages do not appear when you select "pages from Brazil", I would file a reinclusion request through the Webmaster Tools console even though its not really what you want, but because its one of the only ways to get Google to look at an individual site. Good luck!
So there must be something else wrong. Because I did the site:www.formaturasweb.com.br search and it´s shows in the "Results from Brasil page" But if I search for www.formaturasweb.com.br my site it´s the last of the list. May it be related with a server downtime or something? Because Before when I first got the VPS plan it had about 360 MB of ram and the server couldn´t handle it for more than two days. So I set it to reboot every day at 3:00 AM. May this "downtime" that lasted about 15 minutes every day be the cause o google loosing trust in my domains?
I don't speak Portuguese, so I can't read your pages, but there are things I see that might hurt your rankings. First of all, you have a PageRank of 2, which is not very strong. Second, you have a great many links on your main page, including many links at the bottom of the page to other sites that seem very similar to the formaturasweb.com.br site. If you are trying to make several sites do well in Google at once, you will find that it is very difficult. Focus on one site and make it as good as you can before trying to build the others. Good luck!
Interesting post casarmello. Would be interesting to see what happens to the websites you have moved back to the Brazilian server compared with those that you have kept on the US server.
Hi people. There´s 2 things that you shouldn´t forget aboute this specific situation: 1- I have about 40 domains. In link eatch other in a group of a maximum of 10 domains per group. I group them by theme. About 2 or 3 of them are not linked at all with the rest of the "network". 2- ALL of them had HUGE SERP drop and ALL of them are listing after the sites that talk about them when searching by the domain name. For example, atendimentogratis.com.br it´s a website that serves a free chat program but it´s "isolated" from the other websites of the network. It dropped as well, so I really don´t think it´s related to any "black hat" optimization. The only thing in commom about ALL the websites it´s that they are all hosted at the same server. In the new server I even grouped them in groups of 10 domains per IP, so even their IP´s are different. It must be something related to IP geo-location or Site downtime.
Somthing is going on, i have seen many threads about many ppl that claim their sites to be dropping since about 2 weeks ago..
Yes the location has some effects cause google determines a sites language-locality with 4 factors (language,links language,server ip,tld) But Imo it does not have an effect that much otherwise I would never be able to rank well locally while my sites were hosted abroad.There must be something different. And yes we can never be sure about things that's normal unless google gives an official briefing , there are more than 200 factors and all has a value one thing working on your situation may not work for me , this is also what they want.
The reason you dropped is because your servers changed, therefore your sites IP adress changed. Google detected this and has to reindex everything, and cache everything. Hope that helps