Petehols method journal

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by mariner7, Aug 17, 2009.

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    I found Petehols thread and thought I would also try it out -- I'm certainly open to maximizing my income.

    I've used similar marketing methods in the past, but after reverse engineering his process decided I would try it again in a niche that is very popular.

    I might add I have absolutely no personal interest in this field whatsoever, so this goes against the well worn mantra of "writing about things you are interested in."

    Here are the results after day 1.

    25 articles submitted
    697 views
    0 Clickbank sales (0 hops)
    0 Plimus sales (12 people accessed the buy now link)

    I selected 3 products and the articles had a link to a page with info on all 3 of them. Since the Plimus product had the best response, I'm going to separate them and do more articles for just that product.
     
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  2. petehols

    petehols Well-Known Member

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    Hi Mariner7

    Glad I inspired you to start more article marketing. Which Directory are you using for your main articles? Plimus does work out well. I would also choose a product that you do know about and write articles for that to see if you get more of a response on that product. I would be good to see that as a test.

    Hope it all goes well for you.

    Thanks

    Pete
     
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  3. mariner7

    mariner7 Peon

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    Hi Pete,

    The "article" site I'm using and my approach is a little unconventional, so I'll let you know once I'm getting decent results from it.

    I'm not 100% if the page was yours, but what I found had almost a perfect example of the pre-sales page you mentioned:

    It seems that people need to be pre sold after the article. The landing page itself is a 1 page pre-sell page. The way I lay it out is like a sales page apart from a lot less writing. It asks the customer questions about what they need the product for. It puts those questions into their mind and makes them think about things. There is a few dot points. Then there is a short review of the product and then there is a link to the buy now page. There is also a couple of banners in strategic points of the page 1 big banner above the fold. Also there is 1 link just underneath the fold to click through to get more info. This just takes them to the main sales page.

    I would say this niche is not rocket science and I've been able to pick up knowledge about it just by reading through other articles, yahoo answers, etc, for article ideas.

    Regards,
    Matt
     
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  4. mariner7

    mariner7 Peon

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    Quick update:

    I already had 1 article, so the figure was 24 new, not 25. I added in 1 more to the first site, making 25 and added all 25 to a second.

    1st site:
    views: 1003

    2nd site:
    views: 145

    Plimus 0 sales -- 13 viewed buy now page in last 24 hours

    I went back and made some changes to the articles, so didn't write any new ones, but will do that today. One of the articles is already ranking #3 for a longer tail search.

    What I've done with this first lot of articles is a little unconventional, so I will revert to normal methods.

    I've setup twitter and will do some Yahoo answers today.
     
    mariner7, Aug 18, 2009 IP
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    rbf738 Peon

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    I like how big Pete's has gotten so it almost has tribute threads now. But yeah, good luck with your endeavors. You might want to get a differently titled thread which makes it more unique/personal to you, tho.
     
    rbf738, Aug 19, 2009 IP
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    ajbarnes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I noticed that too. That thread is very inspirational and motivational (even though I'm growing gray hair trying to figure out the google trends tactic!) lol. :D

    Good luck with your journey "mariner7"! :cool:
     
    ajbarnes, Aug 19, 2009 IP
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    petehols Well-Known Member

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    Hi Guys

    I think it puts paid to putting all things I am doing in plain site. But stay peeled there will be a big announcement soon. Mariner7 I hope you stick to this journal if you have actually reverse engineered my plan you should start to see good results within the next month. I will be following you very closely to see how well you are doing.

    I really hope it all goes very well for you.

    All the Best

    Pete
     
    petehols, Aug 19, 2009 IP
  8. mariner7

    mariner7 Peon

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    rbf738 - I thought the title was the most descriptive since I am following Pete's method.

    ajbarnes - thanks, it's just a matter of putting in the hard yards at this point.

    Thanks Pete. I have a good idea of what you've done, but will be interested to read whatever you have coming out.

    I've now submitted the articles to 5 sites, so there are 125 out there. Still getting decent views, but have only had 36 unique visits to the product page so far.

    I recall one of your early products took 60 hops and another 200, so I'll keep going with it until at least 200.

    I was sidetracked by other things yesterday but the plan is to write and submit more articles this evening whilst watching the cricket.

    I also received your google trends report and will get started on that. I had planned to setup a new WP blog/domain and do them that way. Is there any extra benefit with using blogger?
     
    mariner7, Aug 19, 2009 IP
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    bigmodo Well-Known Member

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    what is the petehols method all about?
     
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    EMO_Ralez Peon

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    free traffic right?
     
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  11. petehols

    petehols Well-Known Member

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    @Mariner7

    With Google Trends the main aim is to get the blog found before the trends dies. I am currently in testing other methods with trends which might make this easier. One of those ways are with a domain and WP. The trouble is unless it is an old domain that is already listed it could take a few days for the blog to get found on google and by that time the trend has died and you will make nothing from it. These trends tests are nothing to do with the announcement but hopefully this has helped you a bit. All I can say is use my trends tutorial as a guideline on how I done it, if you think something else will work better then test it, test it and then test it again. That is the only way to find out what works and what doesn't.

    I think you should do well with this journey but I don't think you will have fully reverse engineered my method. I extensively tested directories with this method until I got the ones that worked the way I wanted them to.

    All the best though if you continue and don't give up you will succeed eventually.

    Thanks

    Pete
     
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    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    @Mariner7 Good luck with your methods. I'll be watching you closely to see if you have the same success as pete and what you do differently. And on that note, pete you need to get that blog moving along again. It seems to have died.
     
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    I'll also follow your progress and hope things flourish for you. I've found some solid success with article marketing but it does take serious dedication and long term comittment. Stay motivated, twist and tweak, and I'm sure you'll do well.

    Best of luck Mariner

    regards
     
    AC-Coach, Aug 20, 2009 IP
  14. mariner7

    mariner7 Peon

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    I'll get with the twitter speak here:

    @bigmodo, @EMO_Ralez: I would say it is a strategic approach to article/content marketing. Rather than just sending a person direct to a sales page, we send them to a page to pre-sell them for the product. The google trends part is all about capitalizing on buzz. Actually the particular niche I'm targeting could be considered a craze of sorts.

    @incomes, @ac-coach: thanks for the support. It's a good exercise so far.

    @Pete I think I am on the right track, but am not there yet. The SEO component of linking to one of the articles is working well and as for the directories I'll wait a few days and which ever site (with my article) comes up first, will be the one. I have had accounts at the article directories since 2004 and already have a number of articles up, so I guess this helps getting articles approved.

    I have around 170 articles up, but only 20 of those are what I would consider to be at conventional article directories. I'm going to focus more on those for the time being.

    I've setup a Squidoo and a Hubpages for 1 article I wrote and have answered some questions.

    I also tweaked my landing page to include adsense. I figure if they are not going to click through to the product, I may as well get a click out of them. I'll see how it goes and adjust accordingly.

    I'd certainly recommend doing a day of prep -- opening accounts, etc, so when you are in the writing zone, that's all you have to do.

    Time for the new ball and these last 3 wickets in the cricket.
     
    mariner7, Aug 20, 2009 IP
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    mariner7 Peon

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    I added in Squidoo, Hub page, some answers and a video. In the video, I've added in my own bonus for buying and I also added adsense at my landing page. I'm redesigning the whole site for the domain the page is on, so will also have an opt-in for them to receive CPA offers and links to trend pages.

    Up to 52 unique visitors to the product page, with 1 sale for $40. I'm officially on the board.

    I read a great description the other day about bum marketing and how it differs from regular article marketing by having a very clearly defined focus on what you want the article to do. I'm certainly doing that, but also applying SEO to create a fully integrated approach.

    I checked the stats for the particular keyword I'm targeting and it is well within reach, so I'll have a secondary goal and getting to #1.
     
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    dlm Peon

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    Why does everyone need their own journal nowadays?

    Pete's thread is great - why didn't we just keep the discussion in there. No point starting another thread on the matter.
     
    dlm, Aug 21, 2009 IP
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    mariner7 Peon

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    @dlm if there are 267 pages at the Clickbank sub-forum, with let's say 30 threads per page, that's 8010 threads. One could argue that 1 out of 8010 threads is not that significant and besides I assumed if there were any problems with me doing so, the moderators would have informed me or deleted it.

    I felt that thread was winding down. Pete is moving onto bigger and better things, whereas I am starting at zero following what he did. It's a new chapter.

    Without wanting to go too far into the psychology of posting progress reports, it brings a level of accountability for me which I find motivating.

    If others read this and learn something, great. If still others wish to ignore it completely, I have absolutely no problem with that. It's all about choice.
     
    mariner7, Aug 21, 2009 IP
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    mariner7 Peon

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    I've gone back to what I would consider standard article marketing, paying close attention to my titles, the first paragraph and the resource/bio box. I had my Hub page rejected due to it being over commercial. All I had was the article and 2 links in the bio box. I find it ironic Hub pages would deem my page unsuitable, yet they plaster every single site of their site with adsense.

    Since I've hardly ever seen results from Hub pages in organic results, I'm not going to waste any further time with them.

    I've also done some research about this niche in the trenches so to speak and have uncovered some excellent topics, so will continue to write and submit articles.

    So far I've had 125 unique visitors and 2 sales and this has jumped from only 44/0 a few days ago.

    Also, since I've been spending time on this, I've noticed more traffic with some of my other sites which culminated in a large order for one of my heath products last night. Action brings results.

    I'll do another update when I have 10 articles submitted.
     
    mariner7, Aug 25, 2009 IP
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    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    What's wrong with having a journal. This way you can keep other people motivated and they might as well reward you at some point (somehow). Well that is not the point.. Everyone is free to make their own journals and let others get inspired, this is the whole point of a forum right?

    Will start one soon and let everyone know ... :)
     
    evelinawilliams007, Aug 26, 2009 IP
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    Michelle. Peon

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    Indeed. Good luck Mariner, you are one mighty fast writer though. 170 articles in 3 days :eek: (unless I read that wrong)
     
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