Hello @digitalpoint, This is to bring in to your notice that some people are placing bid through their false IDs in BST section without making any payment. I think that if a user finds a competitive thread then he/she places the bid to close the thread without making any payment and later on they place a similar thread from a different ID. Please look on to this matter and make the system in such a way that nobody would be able to place the bid without making any payment. My two threads were ended as someone placed the bid without making the payment and later on I found similar kinds of threads posted from different ID. Regards Reban
if you are selling anything and someone bids then your thread does not close!!! and if you have the thing that you selling with buy now they insta pay.... so there is no problem here!!! sorry to say this but it would suck to bid money and then if something happens lets say it gets stuck they loose money like this you know... so i think the system they have is very cool and fair!!! now no one is having fake id's since this forum does not allow double IP and tracks IP... and even if someone makes 2 accounts he gets banned!!! so when someone bids on something he doesn't pay anything until he win and your thread doesn't close until the day you set has finished!... so there is no problem with this once again!!! i am a good buyer and i like the system the way it is!
This issue has been brought up before along with productive (in my opinion) solutions to this problem. It appears that some members have nothing better to do than make fake bids. Apparently trying to outbid others is seen by some, as a form of entertainment....weird but true. As to members having more than one account, yes they will ultimately get found out and banned. But that process can take time as there are many members, versus a very small number of mods. We members who discover duplicate accounts, therefore need to help the mods out and report when we see duplicates.
LOL...if you seriously think there are no duplicate accounts, you're living in cloud cuckoo land! I report duplicate accounts on an almost daily basis...there are hundreds of them! I second that!!
There is member placing bids for fun. => True There is fake account created to outbid Others => True There is member with multiple accounts => True (they got banned) There is only few moderator for this big forum => True (but they work really hard to keep this forum as good place for respected member) It seems we have same opinion. Glad I'm not the only one whom doing this. For OP: When a buyer place a bid, you can remove that bid if you were not sure about it. Before doing so, I recommend you to send a message and communicate with them through PM. A good sign of buyer is when they reply the message and kind enough to answer few simple questions about sales thread. Your statement above make me worried. I don't know why you said that. But it seems there is still possibility for that bad things into happen. As what Diva already said, whenever someone has multiple accounts, they would be banned from this forum. However, it may take times to spot all of them. The best idea to do is checking relation of both accounts (the one that place bid and another account that open sales thread). If both account were controlled by same person, use 'report button'. I recommend anyone to always do some deep research first.
Dear Friend, I first tried to communicate with those people who placed the bid but they didn't response. Later on I understood what they were trying to do. Therefore I canceled their bid. You explained a great idea how to find the relation of two accounts but I think it is not easy to find if two accounts are controlled by the same person. It will be helpful if you can share that idea. In my case, two threads were ended as someone placed their false bid without any payment. Now interestingly both these bidders were new with just 10-12 messages on their account with no 'likes' and 'answers'. Moreover trophy points were also very less. Regards Reban Mate, I appreciate your suggestion but there should be some way that genuine buyers should not lose their money and similarly genuine sellers should get their amount if a person has placed the bid. A genuine seller will be at loss if the bidder does not pay on time which I think not a good idea. You are saying the current system good according to buyer's point of view only. Suppose you are a seller and you get a bid without any payment, will you say the current system good in this case also? Your thread will end immediately and you cannot sell the content till you cancel the previous bid. Mate, I think a new system is required now where a buyer should not be able to place the bid till he/she pays to the seller and seller should receive the amount only after completing the project for the buyer. DP website can assist their users to get a genuine deal in every case.
The best thing to do are: Always contact any member whom placing bids. Ask what they like about the sales thread and what they expect from it. If they were online and not responding to the message for couple of hours, remove their bids but send the email notification telling them to contact you immediately if they wish to purchase the stuffs/services. If they didn't online for more than 48 hours, there is possibility that they may not a typical of 'serious buyer'. Only apply three points above to member with low 'authority level' (low likes, Best Answer and Trophy Points. Post count is not important metric). Pay attention to member with less than 100% Trust level (the points below 'Trophy Points'. It is labelled 'As seller' and 'As buyer'). Actually there are few things you can do for member that press 'BIN': If the member is online, make a Contact ask him/her nicely to process the payment. if there is no response, just tell him/her "thanks for bidding, I hope you get what you looking for". Proceed to the next step, If you believe there is fake bid, here are simple ideas to overcome the issue: Report the member immediately to moderator. Just press the 'report' button on one of their post and explain it carefully. Only send a message if the moderator ask you about it. There is high chance mods will send you a message to discuss about the 'problematic member' whom bidding and run. You may wish to warn another seller if the 'problematic member' bidding on another sales thread. You just need to do this until an action was taken by Mods. I didn't recommend this but I believe the seller will thank you for trying to help them. Make sure to use the PM while doing this. Once more time, I would say "I didn't recommend this method". Notes: Moderator may not be able to help you because it is quite hard to find out whether the member is actually willing to buy or just 'to play' with you. Find any proves to support your arguments. In this last step, you can help moderator to remove the 'bad guys' that doing the bad things in MarketPlace. This also will answer your question: Here are what need to be done: Make deep search to find the similarity between one account with another. Look at the way the sentences were created. Pay attention to where and for whom the posts were created. Basically you just need to play 'detective'. I'm not the right member to suggest you on doing extensive checking so I would leave it to other people. Just report to Mods. The best solution is just report to Mods. Staffs have more experiences to deal with each profiles and find any fraudulent activities. Find good friends which may able to help you checking the 'problematic member'. I repeat one more times, just to help you 'Checking the Profiles'. There are so many respected members in this forum. I don't know all of them so don't ask me about it. I recommend the second step above. Doing first step is not recommended as it will give more work for Mods. ## Off Topic ## Suggestion: You may wish to combine all of your post above into 'Single Post'. By doing that you will make it easier for anyone to read your posts. Creating multiple posts actually are not recommended. ## end Off Topic ## You have already stated good idea and i like it. However, I believe the system already did as what you really want. Based on my experiences while buying stuffs, When I press BIN, it will redirect me to Paypal and I have to pay the stuffs. I think the system already work as expected. In my opinion, DP has better system than most forums that offer marketplace. However, I do believe there is still more room for improvements. I couldn't discuss about it as I have no idea how to create good marketplace system.
reban, you might be right that it might be people attempting to remove your products from the marketplace, but it is best if you do not take it personally. Shawn put in new restrictions for people selling sites, I am unsure if this extends to you selling articles, but it is clear that the owner of DP is doing their best to help reduce the issues. I am curious to ask, does the new system work for you for your sale threads? Have you noticed an improvement? There is a thread asking for feedback on that, perhaps you can suggest changes that the owner of DP can code in to make it even better.