Penalized for being on the same server as banned site?

Discussion in 'SEO' started by hepheydk, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. #1
    I have some sites hosted on the same server. One of these sites has been banned by Google. Some other sites have "just" been penalized (dropped SERPs). And some other sites aren't penalized and rank very well.

    My question is: Could the penalized sites be penalized because they are hosted on the same server as the banned site?
     
    hepheydk, Jan 6, 2008 IP
  2. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    I think theres just a conicidence .....
     
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    gogo2005 Peon

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    In my opinion is NOt. In one of my server I have hosted 3 sites ( different sites category) and one of this site has been penalized ( nasty thinks :) and other tow have NO problme actualy one of them jump to first page :)
     
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  4. hepheydk

    hepheydk Peon

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    So you don't think my sites are penalized for being hosted on the same server as a banned site?
     
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    guidyy Active Member

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    Penalizing sites just because they are on the same server of a banned one would mean the death of shared hosting business.
    If the banned site was yours as well than could be a different story....
     
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    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    No, no, there can be no relation whatsoever. Some servers have thousands of websites. If the host were a factoer, then when a site at a big web hosting company gets banned, all the other sites would get affected, which is crazy.

    What's more likely is, Google using your Adsense account number or your cookies to cluster your sites. But I don't even think Google do that. It would go against their philosophy.
     
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  7. hepheydk

    hepheydk Peon

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    The banned site is mine as well. What to do? Should I get rid of the site? Move it to a different server?
     
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  8. hepheydk

    hepheydk Peon

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    I do use the same Google Adsense account for the banned site and the penalized sites. Should I remove the Adsense code for the banned site?
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    I have most of my sites on the same server.

    4 of them are banned...:D.

    Yet many others are doing exceptionally well.

    Just don't interlink your bad and good sites.....else you may have problems.

    Why?

    I have been using Adsense on banned (in the search engine) sites for more than a year now.

    Google, the search engine and Adsense function as separate entities. Getting banned in one will not affect your position in the other.
     
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  10. monosodium

    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    Depends how paranoid you are :)

    No, don't worry about it. I was just pointing out a possible method for Google to tie healthy sites to banned sites owned by the same person. But if you think about it, even this is not really feasible, since your account number is public information, and someone could easily stick your account number on his banned site. Bottom line, Google judges sites on their own merits, so if a site is healthy, it should stay healthy as long as there's nothing wrong with it. Having bad relatives doesn't make any difference.
     
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  11. hepheydk

    hepheydk Peon

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    The banned site used to link to my other sites, but the other sites didn't link back til the banned site. The interlinking is removed now, but could this have caused the penalty of the other sites?
     
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    hepheydk Peon

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    It makes sense:) So the bottom line is that the site aren't the reason for the penalty of the other sites?
     
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    That is difficult to answer.

    If the banned site was banned for its link building ways (buying high PR links etc), then sites linking to it may get affected.

    The banned site will also not pass link benefits to other sites.

    If the site was banned for keyword stuffing or any other onsite blackhat technique, it is unlikely that sites linking to it or which it links to, may get affected.

    Google's reasons are not always obvious and I can just say that it is better to keep banned/penalized sites separate from unaffected sites.
     
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    monosodium Well-Known Member

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    yes, i agree with sachin40. it's unlikely. but it's a grey area.

    i'm assuming you used the same sort of techniques on all of your sites...? then it would stand to reason they all got banned.

    what might have happened is this, while one site may not be responsible for the banishment of another, when one of your sites gets picked up for banning, and the ban is implemented manually, the guys at google might say "ok let's also check this joker's other sites" and if the other sites fail, they also get banned.

    this is all wild speculation, based on how i would be doing things if i were in charge of site banning at google.
     
    monosodium, Jan 7, 2008 IP