Does anyone know where the US fleet is normally stationed? California. So how did we get attacked in Hawaii? Here's the story... In 1939, FDR ordered the Pacific Fleet to move to Pearl Harbour, a vulnerable spot in the Pacific. In 1940, Admiral J.O. Richardson, the fleet's commander, flew to Washington to protest FDR's decision to permanently base the fleet in Hawaii instead of its normal berthing on the U.S. West Coast. FDR fired the Admiral and replaced him. Replacing him was Admiral Husband E. Kimmel. Kimmel also informed Roosevelt of Pearl Harbor's deficiencies, but accepted placement there, trusting that Washington would notify him of any intelligence pointing to attack. The reason: the fleet at Pearl Harbour were sitting ducks. The USA had placed a crippling embargo on the Japanese that forced them to consider an attack. Then FDR handed them the entire Pacific fleet as bait. When Japan did attack, FDR attacked Germany instead, his real motive, leaving 20,000 men under MacArthur in the Phillipines to die. So by murdering over 2,000 americans, FDR won himself a war to help out his Cousin Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Britain. 2006: Since FDR, no President has had such big government policies as George Bush. Homeland security is unprecedented in size. It combined the CIA, NSA, FBI, Army, Navy, and Air Force, under one director's power. I'm not going to try to feed you a specific conspiracy about George Bush, but the truth is out there. And our freedom is at stake.
It's sad that rather than have a real political debate, you resort to insults and mockery. That speaks volumes about your character.
Cyrus, don't let lorien get to you, he's never been anything more than a troll (and never has any substance to his posts).
yo-yo, you're just jealous that I used the guy on the horse tinfoil hat pic on someone else but you. admit it, that first one is damn funny.
SO?! None of that goes against what I had above! FDR Moved the fleet to vulnerable pearl harbour in 1939 when he enacted his Oil Embargo on the Japanese. He FIRED the Admiral Richardson who flew to Washington in protest over the movement from safe California to vulnerable Pearl Harbour. The sucessor, Admiral Kimmel also argued with FDR over it's vulnerabilities. FDR willingly moved the fleet into a vulnerable position after embargoing Japan. THIS IS NOT DISPUTED BY ANYONE. Having read ANY posts between me and Yo-Yo, you would know we normally share quit the malignant relationship, however! This TRANSCENDS Left-Right debate! This is about being American and protecting our freedoms. FDR was a liberal. Bush a conservative. We are being decieved by the false two-party system. Both sides want a big world government and are working AGAINST their constituents to trick us into it.
Here's some good reading Cyrus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_debate Oliver Lyttelton, the British Minister of War Production, is quoted on page 35 as saying, " ... Japan was provoked into attacking the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history ever to say that America was forced into the war. Everyone knows where American sympathies were. It is incorrect to say that America was truly neutral even before America came into the war on an all-out basis."
I find all these conspiracy theories quite amusing and entertaining. Will we ever know the truth? I highly doubt it, I just hope your paranoia, just or unjust, does not take away from the joys life has to offer.
Yes, and "they" laugh themselves all the way to the bank. I'm not sure if this is the greater or lesser conspiracy of "they" - but I know "they" are involved. Somehow. Someway.
Where the hell is my Tin Foil Hat? Without it, I just might believe Michael Savage is Bill Clinton with a beard. D
Interesting. There always is the Destroyers for Bases Agreement in 1941, and the 'Whether the Country Knows It or Not, We Are at War' on September 10, when he had Admiral King escort the lend-lease supplies to Britain with orders to shoot down all German fleets in the atlantic. FDR was accused of dragging us into war up until his death. We probably would of gone to war with the Soviet Union too, had Patton not died in a "mysterious automobile accident" on his way to the USA to decry Soviets shooting American POW's.
Here's instructions. I cannot people make their own hat. Its a personal, life changing event. the piece of mind you get once the govt can no longer probe your thoughts is amazing...
So you agree, yet treat my sound theories with contemptous mockery? What a profoundly odd speaker you are.
The CIA released the files in 1995 that Oswald worked for the CIA. The final files will be released in 2012. Ironically any government workers involved would be too old to prosecute or dead... It is well known the CIA was upset over the pull-out from Cuba in the Bay-of-Pigs. Oh and why was the CIA director in Dallas that day? Haha, what a dufus, that's such a give-a-way. Oh and this is good too: The former director of the CIA, Allen Dulles, was fired by President Kennedy, but was then appointed as one of the seven members of the Warren Commission to investigate Kennedy's assassination.. Kennedy did say, he would "Break the CIA into a thousand pieces". Guess they got to him first, haha.