Peak oil theories wrong, says ExxonMobil boss

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  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #21
    maybe because those taxes pay for crap people use in that state?

    what are gas taxes spent on mostly? Maintaining roads?

    if they are then it makes perfect sense that people who drive more get to pay more for the roads.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Then perhaps you can explain how their cost jumped a full dollar per barrel when the price went from $2/gal to $3/gal... after all, according to you their only make 10 cents profit either way right? :rolleyes:

    I guess then when they sell gas a full 50 cents cheaper in Iowa than Phoenix, they must be losing money selling there!!! :D or wait.. wait.. let me guess! perhaps it costs a full 50 cents more to get gasoline to phoenix than Iowa right :D :D
     
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    #23
    First of all, they don't have a proven monopoly. Secondly, companies can price their products at whatever price they want and I have no problem with it. Thirdly, what about the government monopolies on education, milk and almost all agriculture? Are you for everyone paying more in taxes in order to pay MORE for milk? Why aren't you for the dissassembly of those monopolies?

    Civil liberties are economic as well as social imo.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #24
    Some complain when it's high AND complain when it's low. I guess some people just complain.
     
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    #25
    I'd rather not argue with the level of ignorance in here, but there's two things which irrefutably lead to high oil prices: 1)A lack of new oil refineries in America (which is slowly being reversed) 2)the price of petro on the world market and demand

    There's other factors as well, but those are the main ones.

    I think the regulations on the world market should be a little more than they are now (which is nothing), but generally there's a whole bunch of assertions here with not anything (really) to substantiate fraud.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #26
    wasn't there some speculation that refineries were closed on purpose to raise prices

    http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcriptNOW145_full.html

    supposedly some refineries were shut down for no apparent reason

    don't you remember poor Pat couldn't open the oil refinery of God

     
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  7. Rick_Michael

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    #27
    lmao...oil refinery of god.
     
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    #28
    Cost of oil actually went up to $70 barrel, up from $40 or something? And I said they made 10 cents on the dollar, not 10 cents on the gallon. I know why you choose not to read now; you can't comprehend it either way ;)

    Curious if you'd feel the same if the sales tax on everything went up to 45% ? I mean its right, since it those taxes pay for the crap people use in that state, correct?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #29
    Nobody likes taxes, but stuff like roads need to be fixed, so it makes sense to tax the gas

    I think they should tax children, like for every kid you get charged an extra $1000 a year
     
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    #30
    aren't kids punishment enough, in and of themselves? :p
     
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    #31
    Actually their cost stayed the same while charging double the prices..:rolleyes:
     
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    #32
    lmao...extra kids, extra tax....lol. That's a radical concept. That almost is a kick in the liberals balls ie it almost sounds conservative. Be carefull, feret.
     
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    #33
    Yeah, public school destroys their mind.
     
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    #34
    No joke. If I had kids, I'd also have to either home school or put them in a private school. For $10,000/kid/year, you'd think the public system wouldn't suck so much.
     
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    #35
    Home schooling is the best. The costs are so low, and the child has a better sense of family. As long as the child is kept among their own age (e.g a sport), I think it's probably best way of raising someone.

    It would literally save us trillions if we did this as a nation.
     
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    #36
    Not practical. And it makes kids weird. They don't get to socialize enough.
     
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    #37
    Depends on the political enviroment. As-is, it's not as practical, but I do believe in the future it will move forward. This is mostly due to our currency and how inflation prone it is; in comparison to the days when one person could work, and the other could stay home and take care of the child.

    I'd say the latter comment is a generalization.

    The faster the internet gets, the more likely it will be used for forms of education.
     
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    #38
    How do kids learn to fist fight unless they go to public schools?

    That home shcooling is really only an alternative for people who have money, and are pretty educated isn't it.

    Personally I think kids need learn pecking order, they need to exposed to general unfairness and learn as qucikly as possible that they are not special and the world doesn't revolve around them.
     
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    #39
    Depends on what age you send them to school. Considering that an education major is one of the easiest in college; I don't think the field filled with rocket scientists. If you send your kid to a normal school (private or public), say, in high school when the material actually becomes more difficult, I wouldn't see a problem with it.

    I could easily point to studies that show kids put into day care too early are more depressed, anti-social and angry than kids who are raised at home. That'd also be parents' responsibility for kids to know a "pecking order" through discipline and take them out to activities with other kids as well.
     
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