paypal's let the buyer win on chargeback, i lost my money

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by makelanguages, May 7, 2008.

  1. #1
    i had a auction for gift card number of 115, and send the code through email. the buyer did a charge back and paypal just made the settlement and credit the money back to him. so i lost 115.00 and additional 10.00 fee. why paypal so mean and do this to me
     
    makelanguages, May 7, 2008 IP
  2. goforhunt

    goforhunt Banned

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    #2
    That is where paypal sucks buddy, you must know this fact.
    Paypal is buyer safe always.
     
    goforhunt, May 7, 2008 IP
  3. makelanguages

    makelanguages Peon

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    next time i'm going send the a buyer a empty envelope with tracking just to make sure this dont happen.. so i can provide insurance for myself with evidence
     
    makelanguages, May 7, 2008 IP
  4. humm

    humm बहादुर बच्चा

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    #4
    I always see the receiving party winning in paypal. :( I hope their system gets better.
     
    humm, May 7, 2008 IP
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    danephillips Peon

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    #5
    Paypal is worthly of a class action lawsuit ...

    Virtual means virtual and is not allow a buyer dispute it's in there rules ... :mad:
     
    danephillips, May 7, 2008 IP
  6. Western

    Western Well-Known Member

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    PayPal Definitely take side of buyers
    its not abnormal
     
    Western, May 7, 2008 IP
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    tobycoke Well-Known Member

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    That applies to payments from a PayPal balance not from a credit card funded payment. If someone uses the PayPal gateway and pays with a credit card then PayPal cannot argue "virtual good" if the buyer does a chargeback thru his creditcard company. The "virtual good" defense only works if the buyer paid from their PayPal balance. Don't blame PayPal, they have to follow credit card company rules.
     
    tobycoke, May 7, 2008 IP
  8. makelanguages

    makelanguages Peon

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    theres no way to win this case unless i have evidence, next time i will know better.. maybe i won't take paypal and just accept money order or personal check only.
     
    makelanguages, May 7, 2008 IP
  9. sawz

    sawz Prominent Member

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    maybe when hell freezes over. paypal always backs the buyer.
    i have lost a few this way as well and it sucks.
     
    sawz, May 7, 2008 IP
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    Pervert-For-Life Banned

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    sorry to hear about this.... i use to have the same problem last year..... but now i stand on top of these frauds and they cant bitch on me anymore... i mean cant chargeback from me no matter what...:D
     
    Pervert-For-Life, May 7, 2008 IP
  11. sheilasultani

    sheilasultani Peon

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    If you do that your sales will probably go way down -

    I think it is part of business, you always have to write off a certain amount for loss - Just think how glad you will be when you buy something from someone and you want a refund.
     
    sheilasultani, May 7, 2008 IP
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    Paypal is not there physically when you initiate the deal so they would not know who is telling the truth. They only know that the buyer pays the seller the money and as such, the seller must prove beyond a shadow of the doubt that the seller actually sends the goods. The only way in which you can do that is my a verifiable 3rd party courier service like DHL or Fedex with online tracking.

    I do hope that you got Paypal's prior approval for selling gift cards and have the licenses to sell those otherwise it is prohibited and you get a chance to have your accounts permanently limited.

    See https://www.paypal.com/row/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside

     
    eddy2099, May 7, 2008 IP
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    cool_fs4u Peon

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    you have to make sure that paypal account is verified
     
    cool_fs4u, May 8, 2008 IP
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    I might not be thinking straight, but I am wondering how will this protect you? Are you saying that you won't email the code to the person?
     
    shermancox, May 9, 2008 IP