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Discussion in 'PayPal' started by devin, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. #1
    suppose i pay someone through paypal for a service. within 45 days, s/he did not deliver. can paypal help me?
    SEMrush
     
    devin, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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  2. bccruzer

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    #2
    chargeback immediately, or file a dispute ASAP
     
    bccruzer, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  3. devin

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    i know, but according to Paypal policy page, they do not cover for intangible goods and services. cani still file a dispute and expect to get my money back?
     
    devin, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  4. amitpatel_3001

    amitpatel_3001 Results Follow Patience

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    #4
    Its just your luck and the way you show your proof that the job/service has not been completed or product not delivered, i have lost couple chargebacks where scammers won :confused: so it requires good luck too, and if iam not wrong you cannot make a chargeback after 45/60 days some time interval, make sure you are into the correct time frame or you lose the money.
    Amit
     
    amitpatel_3001, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  5. arvind_srivastava

    arvind_srivastava Well-Known Member

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    You cannot make a charge back after 60 days of payment for a service.It would be better if you file a chargeback now withstanding the fact as to who won it.


    Al
     
    arvind_srivastava, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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    Well, just create a dispute for the transaction and provide evidences of non-delivery. You need to do so within 45 days. For services and virtual items, there is no Seller Protection Policy and depending on the circumstances, Paypal may be on your side.
     
    eddy2099, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    #7
    If you paid with your CC, tell the CC company to do a charge back. The CC company can withdraw your money from Paypal by force. No problem.
     
    login, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  8. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    But if you do a chargeback, you will most likely jeopardize your relationship with Paypal and may lose any priviledges of using their account ever.
     
    eddy2099, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  9. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #9
    Maybe problem :)
    Paypal would surely not appreciate a move behind their back to solve a dispute. And it might be reflected in your future Paypal membership nature, potentially. Being blacklisted is not something I would fancy, would you? Depends on the amount you are to chargeback but on the long run, I see it as a bad thing. Whatever you do, let Paypal conduct it as long as it is a directly involved party.
     
    Clive, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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    Talk to your seller first, if you have already, then file a claim

    If you chargeback 3 times in 12 months, your account will be flagged.
     
    holdem, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  11. devin

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    i just realized. i paid the seller using my bank account. :eek: through paypal. :(
     
    devin, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  12. amitpatel_3001

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    and how old was the transaction? was it before the 60 days limit? If yes i gues you can still charge back
    Amit
     
    amitpatel_3001, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  13. devin

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    2 days. :D and isn't it 45 days? last time i got scammed by an 'established company', they ran away with everyone's money after 5 years. i filed a dispute with paypal, they say they can't do anything because it's past the 45 day deadline (when i filed it it was already 55 days).

    by chargeback do you mean dispute? how can you do a chargeback on a bank account?
     
    devin, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  14. Clive

    Clive Web Developer

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    #14
    Call the bank, they will post you a form you need to fill in and mail back to them. Or file your chargeback at your local branch. If you're with a reputable bank, they will credit your account with the disputed amount shortly after. Then at the end of investigation you either get to keep the money or it will be debited from your ccount if you lose the dispute.
     
    Clive, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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    Unlikely. Not only was it a service but the 45 day dispute period has elapsed. Chargeback is your best bet. Be prepared to have your paypal account access limited if you chargeback before opening a dispute.
     
    eXe, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  16. devin

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    uh...it has just been two days. i was asking that suppose i file a dispute within 45 days. :)
    so i've heard. but i did not use a credit card to pay.
     
    devin, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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  17. Clive

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    So did you use your paypal balance to pay?
    Then no point to go to the bank. Paypal is the only party to consider when filing a dispute.
     
    Clive, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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    Just go to Paypal page and start a Dispute against their charge. It is better than to just sit there and do nothing. Who knows, it may work for you.
     
    eddy2099, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  19. arvind_srivastava

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    #19
    I totally agree with eddy.
    Definitely open a dispute for the payment made in paypal.
    Also try to solve the dispute mutually between the two of you but through paypal, this way all communication is with paypal authorities and is used for settling disputes when the case moves to their arena.

    Hope this helps


    Al
     
    arvind_srivastava, Feb 23, 2007 IP
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    Yup, going through Paypal should 'scare' the other party and I feel that it adds to your credibility in your claim because everything through Paypal is subjected to justification. Besides, it is documented.

    It is free to open a dispute and if you are honest in your dealing, you should not fear any backslash from paypal. Who knows, even if you do not get your money back, the other party may be getting a red flag.

    I personally feel that Paypal is more pro-buyer than seller.
     
    eddy2099, Feb 23, 2007 IP