Paypal discriminating a whole country, what can I do?

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by spiritfly, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. nonyf

    nonyf Guest

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    #21
    I totally agree spiritfly. You have to understand, it's in paypal's interest to expand. They want the global market share from macedonia to minnesota. Unfortunately, they have to protect their existing network, contend with banking regulations and in some areas - banking laws haven't kept up with the global Internet revolution. I think paypal should get to your area soon however only time will tell... Good luck to you my friend.
     
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  2. carpedies

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    #22
    Don't think the general public can change Paypal's ideas at all. They will do whatever their accountant tells them to do, I guess. But it's of course always worth trying.
     
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  3. spiritfly

    spiritfly Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I didn't mention anything about Croatia(Hrvatska) but you have to admit, its not a roses garden over there too. You are not in EU, but you still have paypal for how long now? Oh, please don't say anything on a subject you don't have knowledge of, especially not in croatian.

    henrym your solution sounds good, but there still are risks of getting your account suspended and I just can't afford that.

    There sure are some frauds, what country doesn't have? USA has a big fraud level percentage, but its still the main country paypal works with.

    The level of fraud in Macedonia is WAY LOWER than countries like Bulgaria and Romania, and still they are on the paypal supported list. Now that is ridiculous. There were and still are cases of frauds there that are not even imaginable here. Also the security level in Macedonia is high. There was a case of a kid who apparently ordered a bunch of T-shirts and clothes for around 80$ and he got arrested for that. The bad reputation which Macedonia has is overrated. The majority of people here have just started using the internet as a way to purchase goods.

    But you have it for like the beginning of paypal, so you have to be satisfied with that. That would suit me, I need paypal mostly for payment.

    When I try to buy something and say I don't have a paypal account, people look at me like I'm some kind of a criminal. I can't take this anymore.
     
    spiritfly, Feb 24, 2008 IP
  4. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    #24
    Personally, I think that merchants who just uses paypal are just limiting their own marketplace. The way to go is still with a credit card merchant or at least a 3rd party credit card processor. I always feel that a paypal only merchant is one who is not serious about their own business platform.

    Last year, I offered paypal as a means of paying for my products and got something like 2 to 3 sales through there but the trouble it put me through was not worth the while. The bulk of my customers still pays uses a credit card. After I dropped paypal, my sales did not suffer and it gives me more time to do my work.

    If the person you want to buy from only accepts paypal then move on to someone else who is serious about doing worldwide business.
     
    eddy2099, Feb 24, 2008 IP
  5. 28081981

    28081981 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    well, i know a few ppl from pakistan, my neighbor country, which too is not supported by PP(paypal), but those chaps have been running PP accounts successfully, for years, they get their payments in PP n then they exchange in to EG or MB. u can also try to do it. a better option for PP is MB www.moneybookers.com , i think it should be available in ur country as well... check it out.. it has got much more countries in its reach than paypal
     
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  6. spiritfly

    spiritfly Well-Known Member

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    #26
    I think working with credit crads is more serious and professional, but 99% of the people here at Digital Point accept payments only through paypal. Also 99% of the sellers at ebay accept paypal only, I'm not a big fan of ebay myself, but I know at least 100 people who would like to use it.

    I have a moneybookers account and find their services even better than paypal, but I can't use it because it seems to me that no one else uses it here.
     
    spiritfly, Feb 24, 2008 IP
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    28081981 Well-Known Member

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    #27
    u can try to promote MB - ask ur customers to open an ac in MB, make them aware that its better than PP in lot of ways, n that one can fund it thru a CC n pay u :)

    cheers!
     
    28081981, Feb 24, 2008 IP
  8. CU_Designs

    CU_Designs Well-Known Member

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    #28


    Uh. Merchants are limiting their own marketplace by offering PayPal? Since when?! No offense, but IF I read what you typed correctly (and I do hope I've read it wrong), then your PayPal knowledge is out of date and therefore inaccurate. Might want to update your personal knowledge base of PayPal by thoroughly reading their help section since you seem to comment quite often regarding PayPal posts. hehe.

    An excellent source of PayPal information: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/helpweb?cmd=_help
     
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  9. eddy2099

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    #29
    The Paypal's Virtual Terminal is only limited to the US members and no one else. Not everyone is in the US.
     
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    #30
    Paypal isnt the universal payment solution..

    Its limited to certain group that they want to serve

    Thats why you see thousands of paypal accounts get limited everyday..

    Its also a limited company of USA..

    One thing that comes to peoples mind when they login to their paypal account morning is it limited or ok?
     
    surf4fun, Feb 26, 2008 IP
  11. CU_Designs

    CU_Designs Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Folks, I URGE people to just contact PayPal for the most accurate information. Listening to some of these people around who don't work for PayPal can have you missing out on something. CALL, EMAIL, READ THE HELP SECTION of PAYPAL to inquire about THEIR COMPANY.

    A person does NOT need a PayPal account in order to buy something from someone who only accepts PayPal; virtual terminal or not. It even states so on any PayPal check out form. Don't have to take my word for it. As a matter of fact, don't. ASK PAYPAL!
     
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  12. eddy2099

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    #32
    You will certainly be able to pay through Paypal with a credit card and without an existing Paypal account provided that you come from one of the Paypal approved country.

    If you take a look at the Paypal online order form for Credit Card purchase, the country listing only contains such and those countries which are not supported are not listed in there.

    When you complete the transaction, you will be invited to join as a paypal member but it is not compulsory to do so.
     
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  13. spiritfly

    spiritfly Well-Known Member

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    #33
    You are right, paypal accepts worldwide payment, buy have you actually seen how many countries are supported by their so-called "wordwide" payment system? More than 190, yeah right.. I can't see Macedonia on the list, nor Serbia and Montenegro. Actually there are the same countries on the list which are "paypal supported" when creating a paypal account. Now isn't that discrimination, again? At least they shouldn't claim that they accept worldwide payments. If those are the countries in the whole world, then what are we Macedonians, Borg? Vegans? Aliens or Predators maybe?? I don't see three suns in the sky, so I must live on the same earth as you guys, right? Absurd..
     
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  14. hav0c

    hav0c Notable Member

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    #34
    Your discrimination claim is nonsense. And worldwide doesn't mean the whole entire world, like you may think it does, since you seem to confuse the two terms.
     
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  15. spiritfly

    spiritfly Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Ok hav0c tell me this, if a company offers a service for all of the usa countries excluding Ohio, should that be considered USA-wide ? And how would you feel about it?
     
    spiritfly, Mar 2, 2008 IP
  16. hav0c

    hav0c Notable Member

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    #36
    There are no countries in the USA, only states or even lower, cities, towns etc. If a company denies residents of a certain state something, then that's what it is. For instance, in Ohio, you aren't legally allowed to own fireworks even on the 4th of July, while various other states can. I'm not going to cry about something, just because it may be unavailable to me and call discrimination.
     
    hav0c, Mar 2, 2008 IP
  17. prince4life

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    #37
    They will get there eventually as some countries' mailing system isn't fully developed and has to go through government regulations etc
     
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  18. Shiv16

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    #38
    PayPal sucks when they know someone got mad funds they Limit his account and take the Money
     
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  19. hav0c

    hav0c Notable Member

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    #39
    Obviously, someone has learning to do. They can't take anyone's money, just for having "mad" (excessive) funds. I'm assuming that this has happened to you and you have no way, for some reason, to re-establish your account?
     
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  20. Stop

    Stop Peon

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    #40
    paypal do what they want whenever they want,online petition wont be helpfull.
    arabian countries made petition to get paypal in and the votes was more than 100.000 and still not working even we are eras and eras older than your country
    thanks
     
    Stop, Mar 2, 2008 IP