PayPal and Intangible Goods

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by surelacard, May 21, 2009.

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    How can you win a dispute if one were to get scammed by a seller offering intangible goods such as graphic design or web programing services?

    Let's say, a seller requires you to pay half of the $xx amount up-front via PayPal but doesn't respond to you via any form of communication (MSN, e-mails or PM's) on the day of the deadline. You've decided to wait another day or two but still to no avail.

    What are your options here?

    Any suggestions are appreciated here.
     
    surelacard, May 21, 2009 IP
  2. NodeGeek

    NodeGeek Banned

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    I think buyers win disputes for intangible goods nearly 100% of the time.

    Good luck!
     
    NodeGeek, May 21, 2009 IP
  3. surelacard

    surelacard Peon

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    Thank you for the prompt reply, NodeGeek. That's reassuring!

    Should one file a dispute claiming that he/she never received the goods? Since it's intangible items, it's nearly impossible to provide a tracking number because in cases like this, address confirmation is out of the picture so the scammer has no way of finding out your address. Correct?

    Thanks again.
     
    surelacard, May 21, 2009 IP
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    Paypal buyer protection does NOT cover intangible goods.

    Seller just has to mention in dispute response that its intangible goods and will win.
     
    coldfinga, May 21, 2009 IP
  5. surelacard

    surelacard Peon

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    coldfinga - If that's the case, are there any other alternatives to get your money back? How about filing a chargeback?
     
    surelacard, May 21, 2009 IP
  6. NodeGeek

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    #6
    This is not correct. From my experience owning a web host, when a client opens a dispute and requests a refund, we had a 1% of winning.

    So please make sure your sources are reputable before giving advice.

    Good luck!
     
    NodeGeek, May 21, 2009 IP
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    When talking about buyer or seller in graphic design services whos the buyer and whos the seller in this case?

    So the graphic design provider is the seller correct?
     
    VFMedia, May 21, 2009 IP
  8. surelacard

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    Yes, the graphic design provider is the seller. I apologize for any misunderstanding in my first post of this thread.
     
    surelacard, May 21, 2009 IP
  9. coldfinga

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    In my experience selling hundreds of ebooks and such on ebay, I've had many instances where buyers would request money back..I simply would respond with 'item was intangible' and would win my case every time.

    Also check here,
    hxxp://justgotscammed.com/paypal.html

    Unless seller voluntarily gives money back...
     
    coldfinga, May 21, 2009 IP
  10. surelacard

    surelacard Peon

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    "Solution

    If you have been a victim of this scam and you have paid with your bank account or Credit Card, their is a way to get your money back, call your credit card provider and tell them to stop the payment. This should solve your problem."

    Taken from the website provided by coldfinga.

    Looks like I am in luck and same with whoever got scammed in the same manner as I did. I also heard that PayPal generally sides with the buyer in situations like this.
     
    surelacard, May 21, 2009 IP