PAYPAL and GoDaddy Support and Protect Scammers

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by bgmv, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. avis03

    avis03 Active Member

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    #41
    sorry selling to in your cases since Im the one who bought. btw, the ids which I bought the stolen domains are: yoshmit and linksys
     
    avis03, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  2. real1

    real1 Well-Known Member

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    #42
    "why dont you just PM me the email or handle of the guy that you bought these names from, because he is the culprit and your involved"

    He can't do it,it will complecated him as part of the scam.
     
    real1, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  3. bgmv

    bgmv Peon

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    #43
    Which domains are you referring to? Please post a list of all the domains you bought.

    I dont know if youve ever heard the term "Guilty by association" but it certainly does apply. Also your english sucks just as bad as the other scammers, coincidence?
     
    bgmv, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  4. avis03

    avis03 Active Member

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    #44
    yoshimit and linksys8 are the 2 DP ids. I realized later that they both gave me same paypal email addy to send their payments to and that is

    thats all the info i have on the scammer. let me know how else i can help
     
    avis03, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  5. avis03

    avis03 Active Member

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    #45
    posted you the 20 LLLL.com I bought from "yoshimit". Here is the other transaction of domains I got from "linksys8":

    WILDWOODGALLERY.US
    5BM.NET
    BARECONTENT.COM
    COEDFUCKED.COM
    5JV.NET
    BIGGSBIZ.COM
    FEMDOMSUPREMACY.COM
    ILLEGALBLOG.COM
    EKMCLOTHING.COM
    CUMZU.COM
    MLMHELPER.COM
    FOYY.NET
    JIAN.BIZ
    MAXK.BIZ
    VERYNAUGHTYGIRLS.COM
    WEBSITEHITSNOW.COM
    THEAUTOMOTIVETIMES.COM
    VYKC.COM
    VYWV.COM
    QW1.NET
    PBPR.NET
    PBLB.NET
    PBMB.NET
    PBRB.NET
    MYBIDS.INFO
    NXL.ORG

    almost all of them have been returned except the some i told u of in the other thread. thanks.
     
    avis03, Feb 19, 2008 IP
  6. GoDaddyResponse

    GoDaddyResponse Peon

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    #46
    Why GoDaddy.com (or any other registrar, for that matter) cannot get involved in these types of disputes:

    Any established registrar is bound by the rules of the ICANN's UDRP (The Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy).

    The UDRP prohibits the registrar from becoming involved in any type of domain name dispute between two parties without direction from a court or arbitration forum.

    The purpose of this rule is to prevent registrars from playing the role of a judge or jury which they cannot (or should not do). A registrar is not a legal body. Can you imagine if it was up to the registrar to interpret agreements between two parties or to decide who had rights to domain names in any kind of domain dispute? That is why ICANN put the UDRP in place, so that registrars are prevented from playing the judge in such matters.

    Unfortunately, registrants feel that they should be protected by their registrar no matter what kind of shady dealings they might decide to take part in. A registrar cannot be responsible for a registrant's bad choice. Likewise, a registrant needs to take responsibility in a transaction that the registrar had nothing to do with.

    What you can do to keep yourself from getting in this type of predicament:

    If you are buying or selling a name it always makes more sense to go through a legitimate aftermarket site (like TDNAM) or an escrow service before committing to a purchase or sale.

    Yes, TDNAM is an aftermarket site that you can go to protect yourself against fraud. But this is not a sales pitch. This is an attempt to try to prevent others from making the same mistake. You don't have to go through TDNAM. But please, if the domain is worth something to you, or you are paying something substantial, be smart about it; go through a legitimate aftermarket site or an escrow service before committing to a purchase or a sale. As we all know, there are scammers out there. So, protect yourself and watch out.

    Domain Services
    GoDaddy.com, Inc.
     
    GoDaddyResponse, Feb 28, 2008 IP
  7. real1

    real1 Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Scamer is back:
    Today, 10:02 am User ID: savdst
    domains

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Domain Name : b10.com
    7 year domain
    Registrar: Dynadot
    Results 15,500,000 for b10
    Bin Price : $2000
    Give ur bid

    Domain Name : k5z.com
    5 year domain
    Registrar: Dynadot
    Bin Price : $300
    Give ur bid

    Domain Name: h9v.com
    5 year domain
    Registrar: Dynadot
    Bin Price : $250
    Give ur bid

    I can transfer domains to ur registrar
    Payment method : e-gold

    regards

    Proof:
    https://www.dynadot.com/account/forum/f4-payment-issues/i-think-i-just-got-scammed-1676.html

    From e_manhattan_us
    To jamal_jo
    Subject Re: Re: Question About: h9v.com
    Date Feb 6, 2008 01:38 PST
    Folder Inbox
    Size 549

    1200$ and we have a deal,thats my last offer,thank you.

    > Hello,
    > I`ve got better offer than your`s 400 for each domain:
    > H9V.com
    > K5Z.com
    > LZ9.com
    > but i`m willing to sell each with the proce of $500
    > All with the price of $1300
    > That is my last price
    > Your messages says that you want all the three names fir the price $1000
    > i think you can pay more $300 to get the offer
    > H9V.com
    > K5Z.com
    > LZ9.com
    > For $1300
    > Thanks
     
    real1, Feb 28, 2008 IP
  8. GreenGambler

    GreenGambler Notable Member

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    #48
    How is it a dispute when you cannot even contact the scammer who is the current registrant? Especially when the whois info on file is another person's stolen identity. A dispute takes two parties and I am pretty sure that you will not hear a peep from the scammer.

    Meanwhile, GoDaddy allows the scammer to sell these names to yet another unsuspecting individual, causing someone else to get scammed. IMO, if a domain is reported as stolen you should at least freeze the account so that it cannot be sold, and sold and sold again. What if 30 days down the road I do get a direct order from the court for GoDaddy to give my names back? And the names have already been sold by the scammer to another person. That person will be out the money and the names would be returned to me. A situation that GoDaddy could have prevented by freezing the domains from being transfered.


    I didn't know that using DP and other forums was considered "Shady Dealings" and a "Bad Choice".



    Your current "rules" allow for scammers to take advantage of registrants that use GoDaddy. Scammers specifically target GoDaddy domain names, why is that?

    Your answer, to me, sounds like GoDaddy is takeing a very weak/passive position towards scammers and hideing behind a grey area. I have heard reports from reliable people, of other registrars that do help to retrieve stolen domains and that GoDaddy has done it for some of there VIP customers.


    This is a classic case of "What would you Do?" "What is right?"

    Rather do the "right thing", It appears to me that GoDaddy chooses to use the legal grey areas and recent scammer activity as a way to promote TDNAM.
     
    GreenGambler, Feb 28, 2008 IP
  9. wagz

    wagz Peon

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    #49
    nice points my friend!
     
    wagz, Mar 3, 2008 IP