Pay More For Dedicated Links?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by pedigreechump6, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. #1
    I submit my site to many directories but it frustrates me when I check back and see 9 other links on that page just a few weeks later.

    I am under the impression that link juice is spread evenly among all outbound links on a page so would personally pay more if I had the option of buying a dedicated link on a page (that is a page with only your link on it).

    Take this as an example:

    A directory has a PR4 sub-category page with zero links on it currently.

    They charge $10 per permanent link.

    I would be willing to have that page dedicated to my link for $100 rather than let 9 other links be placed on that page. The directory owner would make the same amount of money.

    Do you think this would be a good option to have on directories?
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  2. Carlito

    Carlito Peon

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    #2
    The directory owner probably wouldn't be very excited about that because a category with only one link in it is not of much value. Personally I think it would be better to get 10 different PR4s on different class C IPs pointing to you than a single dedicated PR4 page, but that's my opinion. :)
     
    Carlito, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  3. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #3
    If you want to buy directory links most of them would be a waste of money. Why not find quality related websites and buy links on them or even contact the webmaster yourself and offer a deal. I have stopped using directories years ago because 95% of them won't do you that much good.
     
    mightyb, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  4. pedigreechump6

    pedigreechump6 Active Member

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    #4
    no other opinions out there?

    I'd welcome the input....
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  5. Jade456

    Jade456 Peon

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    #5
    Best to submit to free directories, you'll get the same benefit (if any). Better to get a link from a blog or static page from a relevant site.
     
    Jade456, Aug 23, 2007 IP
  6. mad4

    mad4 Peon

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    #6
    Most directory links don't pass any weight anyway.

    The thing to remember is that the value in a directory comes from the co-citation. Your site is listed alongside 10 other similar sites which helps Google know what your site is about.

    Thats why getting links next to porn and poker sites will cause your rankings to nosedive......
     
    mad4, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  7. pedigreechump6

    pedigreechump6 Active Member

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    Why do you say this? Thousands of webmasters buy directory links and while Google does recognise them as directory links they do get counted to some degree.
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 24, 2007 IP
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    Brennan Notable Member

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    #8
    The point of a directory is so that people could find the sites they want this is the purpose of a directory or so it use to be. So more links the better for a directory.
     
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  9. mad4

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    I don't think there are more than about 50 directories that google counts.
     
    mad4, Aug 24, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    I have a site with almost only directory links. It has about 1000 links in. The PR of the site after 18 months is 0 - zero - so that tells me something important. What do you have to say to that?
     
    login, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  11. pedigreechump6

    pedigreechump6 Active Member

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    What are the PRs of all those link pages you have? Until I see this I can't comment.

    I have a PR4 site and directory listings played a big part in my link building strategy. I simply don't believe that so many thousands of webmasters and big companies are wrong about directories.
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  12. thewindmaster

    thewindmaster The Man with the Plan

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    I recently implement an idea simliar to this in my PR5 directory. It is called Hosted Marketing Pages.

    This is much better becuase you can decide the associated content on the page and Have 1 to 5 links that is only yours. The page itself does not start with PR but will gain it because it is linked directly from PR pages.

     
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  13. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #13
    Have a look around. Its 2007 here. Directory links no longer work as well as they used to unless you buy a quality spot on a developed and looked after directory such as alive.

    Login just mentioned that directories did not work for him... I have noticed the same thing a few years ago when i stopped using them. I had to be sure though so i used a semi automatic tool to submit my brand new website to 10.000 or so directories ranging from PR2 to PR8. Results? Nada!

    You are wondering why there are so many people who are wrong? Well its because people are slow to change or they lack knowledge or they just don't like the changes. But this is good for me actually because for the last few years iv been running circles around my competition.
     
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  14. login

    login Notable Member

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    The directory links stopped giving PR to the site around last autumn. Before that the site was a PR4 site.
     
    login, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  15. pedigreechump6

    pedigreechump6 Active Member

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    This is an interesting discussion. I might have to start re-evaluating my use of directories....but it will depend on the PR and price.

    windmaster I have heard of hosted marketing pages and agree that they are they way forward in terms of directory link building.

    I wish more directory owners would allow HMPs.

    Plus I think you grosly underprice them....you should up the price as they really are worth that bit more.
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 24, 2007 IP
  16. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i think it depents on where you buy the directory links.

    most of the people is opening directory for only spamming
     
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  17. thewindmaster

    thewindmaster The Man with the Plan

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    I disagree.

    4 times this year I have used directory services here on DP to submit sites to 250+ directories.

    In ever instance after only 2-3 weeks the sites began ranking in all three major serps for my chosen keywords. Prior to the directory submission none of the sites appeared anywhere for those keywords.

    My most recent submission was 2 months ago for a semi-competitive key term in a very competitive industry. As of today my site ranks #1 on Yahoo, #4 on Google, and #3 on MSN for that key term and I am getting traffic accordingly. This key term is no where on my site.

    So I definately feel directory submissions still work well.
     
    thewindmaster, Aug 29, 2007 IP