Pat Robertson Blames Haiti Earthquake on "Pact With the Devil"

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  1. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #41
    Like I say it's all really entertaining, and surely a good story to think about while you smoke a blunt, but to actually BELIEVE that..
     
    ncz_nate, Jan 16, 2010 IP
  2. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    #42
    It's so sad to me that someone as horrible as Pat Robertson has a following. It says something very very bad about this country. If anyone has made a "pact with the devil" it's Pat Robertson himself.

    BTW, I just donated to the cause (Haiti) through the Clinton Foundation, here's a link if you want to do your part: http://www.clintonfoundation.org/haitiearthquake/
     
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  3. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #43
    @earl, thanks for that. It reminded me of what I went through...

    I think that my grief was partly dealing with the loss of my friend, partly dealing with the WTF feeling of the lack of meaning of his death (Catholic indoctrination), and a BIG part of my grief was self-anger and self-frustration that I wasn't made of steel like I always thought and that, exactly like you wrote, "I'm not an 'ask for help' kind of person. I had just started to do that a bit earlier...but then dove into that type of mindset. Frankly that was a period when I needed help...basically lots of emotional help."

    I started to pull out when I met a man that started talking to me about the emotional help to pull myself together. This was a Muslim I met on an airplane on a flight from San Jose to New York.

    For me, it didn't recede in bits, as you wrote. When I decided that my friend's death was a victory for evil, I was able to assign meaning to my friend's death - and assign a motivating direction for myself, which was to fight against that evil.

    Once I was able to assign meaning to it, my confusion receded, and I was able to deal with the grief better, and my self-anger and self-frustration disappeared. It was as if someone flipped a switch and I suddenly felt better. I was able to deal with his loss somewhat normally after that.

    REALLY??? So, all the humanitarian aid, Robertson has given, all the lives he has saved, all the work he has through the years to help the poor - that all means nothing to you? What a cold-hearted person you are, Zibby. Shame on you.

    gworld seems to argue in favor of suffering. gworld seems to think "comfort" is WRONG. Is that right?

    What do you have against comfort??? Are you like Zibby - you would much rather see people in pain? Is that who you really are???

    If something based on Love, Kindness, and Compassion give someone comfort - why do you hate that? Doesn't that make you a sad person? Does it bother you that someone, somewhere, may be happy?

    Another one... you think Roberrtson's people should stay home and leave the people in Haiti to slowly die buried under rubble? What does that say about you, hmmm?
     
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    Corwin, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  4. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Robertson's latest statement gives himself comfort. His statement that allowing abortion caused god to let 9/11 happen gave him comfort. Falwell's statement gave him comfort.

    Kinda makes me wonder if it's actually based on love, kindness and compassion.
     
    ncz_nate, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #45
    The best way to have comfort and fly high is to be on Morphine, believe me you can have the time of your life but I am against that one too. :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  6. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #46
    I find Pat Robertson's comments idiotic. I agree with RobBrown. Put these guys on TV and they become twisted.

    As bad as Robertson's comments were, I found that Limbaugh made more hideous comments.

    Following the Haiti tragedy he made comments that included the following:

    1. he found a way to criticize the president. (how does human tragedy turn into a political attack.)

    2. Limbaugh turned racist. Somehow the Haitian tragedy enabled him to start mouthing off about "like skinned and dark skinned Blacks". Why does he bring race into this massive human tragedy? What is his problem that he has not an ounce of compassion. Every incident becomes an attack.

    3. He turned the US giving aid into an attack on the administration.

    Do you realize when the Tsunami hit in late December, 2004....Limbaugh's first comments on it had to do with an attack on Nancy Pelosi....among the things he attacked were that He perceived Pelosi's comments as an opportunistic political opportunity to attack the President. Oh yeah...Rush thought that using a horrendous tragedy to attack the President was inappropriate.

    BTW: Pelosi felt we should send more aid and more money. BTW: we did.

    People are dying...the need for aid is desperate....and Rush Limbaugh finds it an opportunity to make racial attack statements and go on the political attack.

    He should have a big fat sock shoved in his mouth so he can't speak. he's a very fat guy. he'd probably find a way to eat it.
     
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    #47
    This guy is irrelevant. His comment and the reactions to it are a diversion from real issues.
     
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  8. Corwin

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    #48
    I completely agree.
     
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  9. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #49
    If you ever thought we were going to get around to discussing real issues, you're out of your mind.
     
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    #50
    How about this statement of prediction for 2007

    Robertson welcomed 2007 with the declaration that God had told him terrorists would attack the U.S. in the latter half of the year. "There's a possibility that — not a possibility, a definite certainty that chaos is going to rule," he said on The 700 Club's Jan. 2 broadcast.
    It wouldn't necessarily be a nuclear attack: "The Lord didn't say nuclear," Robertson noted, yet the "mass killing" could affect multiple cities, and millions of people might die. By year's end, however, Armageddon failed to occur.

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/p..._1953776,00.html?iid=moreontime#ixzz0d5SrG60p

    And millions of people watch this guy on tv. This tells you to never allow ministers or clerics, rabies tell you anything as this people are never right on anything. defunct minds.
     
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  11. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #51
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6512470878328508926#

    Ever watch these guys? This is why religion is dangerous, and I don't believe that as much good is done to balance out the bad as earl suggested. These ppl are on tv all the time too.

    They're preparing for apocalypse, which they'll probably make a self-fulfilling prophecy since they're so narrow-minded and couldn't for a minute imagine that they're delusional.
     
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    #52
    When chaos does come, you better believe it that they will be the first to find a shelter to hide. The only way to balance it out is take out the support, if the Taliban had no support from a great majority then it wont exist, this goes from all religion, whether be Pat Robertson or Bin Laden, all are cowards when it comes to facing the music.
     
    wwws, Jan 19, 2010 IP
  13. scottmweaver

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    #53
    So let me get this straight.

    What you're saying is: without Roberrtson's[sic] "people," the people in Haiti will die?

    Yes, let's buy into the notion that only "Christians" can help the poor devil people of Haiti. Nevermind the fact that people of other religions (like real Christians, for instance), and people without religions for that matter, are also contributing millions and treating the wounded. Who cares if they help rebuild?

    Pretty sure the first people in line to get the hell out of Haiti were the "missionaries."

    So .. to answer your question -- "What does that say about you, hmmm?" -- it says I'm not a blind believer in bullshit and crazy people. You can try to spin my words all you want, but at the end of the day, I'm not the one blaming spirits and people for natural disasters.
     
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  14. Corwin

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    #54
    No. Absolutely not. I am NOT saying that.

    Please do NOT try your heavy-handed spin with me.
     
    Corwin, Jan 22, 2010 IP