Pat Robertson Blames Haiti Earthquake on "Pact With the Devil"

YAY for Christians and their loving spirit.

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Televangelist Pat Robertson said Wednesday that earthquake-ravaged Haiti has been "cursed" by a "pact to the devil."

"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it," he said on Christian Broadcasting Network's "The 700 Club." "They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal."

Robertson said that "ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after the other" and he contrasted Haiti with its neighbor, the Dominican Republic.

"That island of Hispaniola is one island. It is cut down the middle; on the one side is Haiti on the other is the Dominican Republic," he said. "Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. They need to have and we need to pray for them a great turning to god and out of this tragedy I'm optimistic something good may come. But right now we are helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable."

 

That's really mean. This story reminds me of a statement made by another 700 club preacher. It wasn't too long after 911, this preacher, he said that 911 was G-d punishing us. I can't remember what his name was now, he passed away a few years ago. But yeah.

On a side note, Obama is trying to get people to donate for the disaster in Haiti. Details on WhiteHouse.gov

 

It was Pat Robertson. God let thousands die on 9/11 because America allows abortions.

http://www.amazon.com/Bring-Tough-Questions-Candid-Answers/dp/0849917123/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0

 

LOL, you're right. I was kind of right too, because I must have been thinking of Falwell. I found the transcript of what they said...

 

Yea I was thinking Falwell, just couldn't remember the name. God is angered that people die, so he kills more as punishment because he loves us all.

 

~ Problem is people like Robertson have followers that like him use the plight of others for nourishment where the irony lies is for them to be allowed to represent a just God when it actually is their own corrupt (Christian) beliefs they are promoting.

~ Abortion allowing a rational habitat for man within the Garden is not inconsistent with teachings derived from the bible.

 

BTW, what happened in Haiti at Bois-Caïman on 1791 was a voodoo blood ceremony involving animal sacrifice. At the ceremony, the Haitians vowed to murder all the French settlers on the island. Whether it was a ceremony with the devil depends upon if you believe that voodoo and mass murder is devil worship.

Afterward, the Haitians slaughtered all the French, men, women, and children they could find, and set fire to their homes. The French defeated the attack and beheaded the ringleaders.

(BTW, you don't need a pact with the devil to beat the French. You can do it with just a few guys.)

 

It is people like Pat Robertson that make me choose to follow Agnosticism, it was people just like him who justified the enslavement of Africans and the genocide of Native Americans by saying it was "Gods Will." Regardless of what he implied, Robertson is a corrupt piece of trash, he has been involved with African dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, and has been caught Mining blood diamonds in Zaire through an organization that is "supposed" to be humanitarian. Below is the article:

http://www.skeptictank.org/robem2.htm

I was listening to the radio here at home and they are debating about whether or not the U.S. should help Haiti. According to the calls I'm hearing on the show, a lot of Americans don't give a crap about Haiti and think it is a waste of time to help them, as they feel Haiti contributes nothing to the world. My feelings on helping is mixed, I think if you are a doctor and you go there then you have a lot of courage and more power to you, but If you can find a charitable organization that you can donate to that will actually use the money for helping the people then I think it is safer to simply make a donation.

 

"people just like him"???

What is it called when you single out one member of a group, and arbitrarily paint every person in that group with the same characteristics? Isn't that the bigotry called stereotyping?

Why do you point only to Pat Robertson? Why is it Christians like Bishop Desmond Tutu, or Nelson Mandela, don't inspire you to follow Christianity?

What if I wrote "it's agnostics like Adolf Hitler that make me choose Christianity"?

Or if I wrote "it's anti-Christian bigots like tesla that make me choose Christianity?"

 

Pat Robertson really did it big this time. What a slander for the Christian faith!!

 

I said "people just like him," which obviously doesn't include all Christians...........are you able to interpret what you read? This isn't a discussion about Christianity, it is about Robertson's comments on Haiti. The only thing I'm saying is that guy is a joke, he portrays himself as being a Christian but he obviously is not.

 

No, you wrote:

It is people like Pat Robertson that make me choose to follow Agnosticism.

The context is that Pat Robertson is the reason you rejected all of Christianity, and that you felt that there are other Christians like Pat Robertson.

By that, you rejected other Christians, "people like" Desmund Tutu, Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, Dr. King. Am I misreading what you wrote?

BTW, the Catholic Relief Services (CRS) has made an initial donation of 5 million dollars of aid to victims of the Haitian earthquake, with more money on the way. This appears to be the first donation of support to Haiti.

 

When your god of choice becomes your god (of your "life"/existence), then you should expect whatever your god, rather than THE GOD, is able to deliver. . .see what happening in our Public School System, when thEy chose to remove "The Bible (not Prayer. . .because you can't keep anyone from Praying)" from their Libraries. . .and the worst is yet to come, "in our Public School System", because when you choose to expel GOD from ever aspect of your life/existence, HE says, OKay!

And the absence of GOD, and HIS WORD, is H-E-L-L.

 

People like Pat Robertson are only "one" of the reasons why I reject Christianity. There are many others, trust me, but that is not the subject of this thread. As for the donations you speak of, they are good if they are legit but remember that a lot of these aid organizations attach strings to the "aid" they provide to countries like Haiti. Over 30% of Haiti's government budget already comes from aid, the reality is that foreign nations and organizations sometimes control poor nations like Haiti through "aid" and keep them dependent. For example, you ever wonder why they keep sending "aid" to African countries even though they remain some of the poorest on Earth? If aid works so well why haven't those African nations risen out of poverty?

 

Pat Robertson comment is idiotic and an embarrassment to the Christian religion.

 

O.K., I accept this. It comes down to a difference of opinion.

Speaking for myself, there was a time when I rejected Christianity. I re-discovered it when I looked for a belief system solely based upon Love, compassion,and acceptance. However, I am not a conventional Christian - it's easy and simple to succeed in life by studying the word of Christ. It's when you start reading what the disciples did later that Christians start to cause problems. Personally, I believe that the disciples were a bunch of screwups.

Not true - you are thinking of some of the extreme evangelical groups. Catholic groups make bibles available, but they are too busy pulling people out from under rocks and mending broken bones to do anything else. Trust me, on the plane to Haiti, these Catholics aren't reading the Bible - they are checking their gear and getting their medicine ready.

I often wonder that - my guess is that, if Africa ever rose to become an economic power, they would threaten the rest of the world. My guess is that Europe/Asia/USA isn't industrializing Africa for that reason?

 

There are people that go into televangelism for the money that were scheming con artists to start with, and there are people that started out sincere and got screwed up by the money and adulation when they hit "the big time" for their profession. Bottom line there are precious few if any big names in that trade that I'd buy a used car from. Anybody that sends those guys money would probably let a dog guard their sandwich.

I heard Robertson speak about 30 years ago when I was visiting Houston for a wedding that took place at his church back when he was an actual preacher. That was before he hit the national scene, and he seemed pretty sharp. Now he sticks his foot in his mouth on a regular basis. Something about getting paid big bucks that were meant for God and being treated like divinity by gullible schlubs must do a real mind game on those guys... cause most/all the biggies (Falwell, Robertson, Jim and Tammy Baker, Tilton, Oral Roberts, et al) are/were nuttier than a jar of Skippy and were some of the worst possible examples of what their own religion teaches.

 

He's probably getting lonely since all of the news had been towards Oral Robert's recent death.

 

I wanted to also mention that when I say I "reject" Christianity, I don't mean all the principles, I mean, I think the Golden Rule is good and that people should follow that, there is a lot of wisdom in the Bible as well. However, people like Pat Robertson are not true Christians, guys like him are just as bad as the extremist Muslims in the Middle East that abuse their women and wage war against "infidels." If everyone followed the Golden Rule there would be no more wars.

This is what I suspect as well. I find it interesting that as a nation, Americans have historically rejected aid from foreign nations, I think this has a lot to do with our individualist culture and pride and self reliance. These traits allow a country to rise, Haiti and these nations in Africa would probably do well to reject any aid offered to them and simply build their economies alone.

 

Okay tesla and Jeccles, why don't you both stop cutting your nose off just to spite your face???

I follow JESUS CHRIST and/or Scripture---PERIOD. I don't follow "Christianity", especially as it is today; let alone Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, "The Reverend" Jesse ("Messy") Jackson, Al(ley Cat) Sharpton, Swaggart, Dollar, etc. and so on. I do listen to, and learn from, Ministers of The Gospel, like Tony Evans, Charles Stanley, and a few others. But even with them, I still keep my focus on JESUS CHRIST, and HIM Alone.
So then, the only way to know JESUS CHRIST, and then to know about HIM, is to read/know/hear/heed HIS WORD [The Scripture---aka "The Bible"].
THE GOD of Scripture is so VERY AWESOME that, as it is according to Scripture, HE (even before Noah was a gleam in his Daddy's eye) took Noah's Great-Grand Daddy, Enoch, and walked him right on off Planet Earth, right smack dab into HIS KINGDOM. . .Why? because, as Scripture tells us, "Enoch" (agreed TOTALLY, while he) "walked with GOD, and he was not because GOD took him".
And if that wasn't enough, GOD took one man ("Abram") out of the midst of paganism, and turned him into, arguably, the Greatest Nation on the face of the Planet (Israel). And poor old, Enoch and Abram/Abraham didn't even have any Scripture(s) to read/ponder/debate/dispute/etc.
If you're in doubt as to whether GOD IS, and you're genuinely seeking HIM, just like HE did with JESUS CHRIST, since you cannot go to where HE IS, HE'll Come to you. HE Came to me; HE Came to me; when I could go to where HE WAS/IS, HE Came to me. . .now tell me, maybe I'm wrong, but what other god has ever done that---in all recorded History?
When they were beating JESUS CHRIST's butt, IN my PLACE; When, they were Crucifying HIM, IN my PLACE; and when they were doubting HIS Authenticity, and taunting HIM to PROVE HIMSELF, HE chose not to acquiesce, because HE WAS Doing it all for me. . .just as if there was no one else but me. . .and there ain't no "Religion", thought up by mankind that
could ever pull that off- - -even TRADITIONAL "Christianity".

Remember, tesla and Jeccles, they were "Disciples" long before they were PC renamed, "Christians".