Pandering to blacks

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Henny, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. Henny

    Henny Peon

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    #21

    Dead WRONG. Republicans are the reason slavery was abolished, segregation was abolished, and voter rights admitted.
     
    Henny, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  2. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #22
    No.. I think that was human acts of conscience...:rolleyes:
     
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  3. Henny

    Henny Peon

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    #23
    Nope, learn your history, democrats voted against all the above republican bills.
     
    Henny, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  4. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #24
    That was the Democrats and Republicans of the early 1900's....

    Surely you'd agree times and parties have changed no?

    If not just look at the Republican held houses and whitehouse and then look at the spending.
     
    GeorgeB., Mar 30, 2006 IP
  5. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #25
    So republicans are responsible for the civil rights movement? Wow there is always something to learn in Mia's posts.

    And what exactly is a "Cosby" or a "Sharpton" Henny?

    Are you saying we need more black comedians?

    Did Kennedy come up with the civil rights act?
     
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  6. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #26
    (ok everyone knows I'm black/latino... I think)

    I'd like to point out that, most minorities with the intelligence, and will to vote don't blindly vote for Democrats. The simple fact is Republicans just aren't standing for what we want right now.

    Not only are rich white Republicans rich white men, but they are in the pocket of rich white corporate America. Who will happily use those poor uneducated minorities for labor then turn around and say it's a level playing field and that anyone can live the American dream.

    Anyone that says it's a level playing field never grew up in Harlem NYC in the 80s or even now. There are quite a few more distractions away from education in the hood than wild house parties and weekend ski trips and what's happening on American Idol.

    Not saying it's an excuse. I grew up on 159th St in Harlem. I made it, but what I'm saying is that going to bed hungry can be a life altering experience. You can either use it as a wake up call or you can let it depress you even further. Non-minority white kids from average American families don't face even remotely the same obstacles.
     
    GeorgeB., Mar 30, 2006 IP
  7. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #27
    Henny, the history is not so clear cut.

    1. Lincoln, the primordial Republican, ended slavery as a legal practice, which I think was in keeping with what he morally felt. But his views were not always so clear cut: (c. 1837, an opinion registered with the Illinois legislature, when Lincoln was a member):

    I believe he later saw the political opportunity to wrest power back from the rebellious States by the Emancipation Proclamation, and the rest, as they say, is history. Under his successor, Johnson, advances along the road to equal citizenship under the law were abolished on the anvil of reconstruction - deals made with Southern power brokers to bring the country together again. The sacrificial lamb was the black American, setting up the stage for 2:

    2. Segregation was only legally abolished, in public places, in 1954 with Brown v. the Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas. It was Thurgood Marshall, a Democrat, who led the fight and argued the case, to its successful conclusion, before the Supreme Court. Prior to that, Separate but Equal, the cornerstone of institutional segregation, was made the law of the land in 1896 with Plessy v. Ferguson. In that case, both the trial Judge (John Howard Ferguson, of Massachusetts) and Supreme Court Majority Opinion Justice Henry Brown (of Michigan) concluded, sadly, that segregation was no de facto contradiction of the 14th Amendment. I think this, too, speaks to the continued desire on the part of the federal government to close the North/South chasm; the rights of the individual black American were not a part of the consideration.

    3. Blogmaster said civil rights, not voter rights. It is incontrovertible that Kennedy, his brother Bobby (moreso, and, more truly felt, I would say), and Johnson advanced the issue of civil rights to the presidency, with the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1968, and the implementation of the Great Society.

    Neither party, historically, can be wholly called the friend to the black American. Both have shown contempt, and compassion, at various times in their history. Without being black in today's America, I would venture that black Americans, like everyone else, probably sense a snow job, wherever it comes from.;)
     
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  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #28
    It would seem voting against that particular act had more to do with if you were from the south then what party you were in

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
     
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  9. GeorgeB.

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    #29
    Thanks ferret, I was looking for those stats :D

    I was going to mention that a lot of the republican sentiment had to do with the fact that the south used to be full of Blue states. More proof that Republibusinessmen are superb marketers and can sell pretty much any idea to anyone given a demographic platform, say.. oh I don't know, the Bible Belt.
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #30
    Pretty much the republican party is the party of the rich and jesus freaks, although a lot of minorities are christians, a lot of minorities are poor, so tax breaks don't mean as much to them

    I am actually half spanish , my father was born Peru and immigrated in his 30s
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #31
    During the Civil Rights movement, Democrats sought to keep Blacks oppressed.

    They would have you believe otherwise however, and spend all their time telling Blacks that it was the other way around. They call it brain washing.
     
    Mia, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  12. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #32
    It seems most will buy this republican rhetotic as a polarizing black and white issue. However the truth is, people of all races, but specifically the middle and lower classses, are in fact being targeted as slave labor.

    You don't need a black audiance to assert that the public is treated like slaves by our goverment. But it sure clouds the issue and gets the sheep discussing polarization rather then the fact your rights and opportunities in America are erroding be you black, white or purple.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #33
    Another fine example of ignorance on the subject, showing once again why many Blacks buy this bull shit.

    It's the other way around Rob.
     
    Mia, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #34
    And again in the 1960's.
     
    Mia, Mar 30, 2006 IP
  15. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #35

    Okee-dokee! I guess I have my parties confused.

    And I guess all of your history books were written before the 1950's. :p
     
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  16. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #36
    I completely agree and I think you'll find on here, the only ones disagreeing are the nutty republicans (henny, mia, blogboy, and probably will).

    This country isn't fair to everyone, and everyone doesn't have equal opportunities. Especially not when they're cutting education funding and giving rich people tax breaks.

    I really don't think it's an issue of rep/dem or black/white... it's an issue of greed and people taking advantage of each other.
     
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  17. MizzGlass

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    #37

    I agree with this post. The black vote no longer matters anymore and that sucks :(
     
    MizzGlass, Jul 15, 2006 IP
  18. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #38
    It does matter, every vote counts. Unfortunately the Democrats love division. They help create it. They want African Americans to feel like victims who better vote Democrats...the only ones looking out for them.yeah right :rolleyes: I think that there are more racists amongst the Democrats than any other group outside of right extremist movements.
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 15, 2006 IP
  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #39
    Every person I've ever heard say this, does not vote. The only votes (in the US anyway) that do not matter, are those votes that are never cast.
     
    Mia, Jul 17, 2006 IP
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    #40
    You ressurected a thread after 2.5 months just to add that?:confused::confused::confused:
     
    Caydel, Jul 17, 2006 IP