Palestinians: Go back to your arab countries

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by F33l1ngz, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #61
    Alright, I'm willing to learn. Is Jihad a part of Islam? (Not attempting to attack you or anything, I seriously want to know from someone who's Islamic)
     
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  2. ChelseaBoi

    ChelseaBoi Banned

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    #62
    Good to know your willing to listen, Jihad is a part of Islam to a EXTENT.
    The concept of Jihad is basically fighting back against oppression, back them this was used to fight the persecutions that were faced by people just because they were muslims. Jihad later transfers into categories, Verbal, Telling a person who`s doing something against Islam peacefully, Written, if your not strong enough to face the person write to them, and then fighting against the opression. But killing non-muslims just cause there non muslims makes you stop being a muslim right away. Islam commands you to respect other religions, to accommodate them, and to respect their religious areas.

    Read this for extra info: http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/hadith/jihad.htm
     
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  3. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #63
    Alright, what about this?

    Quran 008.039:
    It speaks about persecution, but also about:
    However you say that:
    Quran 058.020 :

     
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  4. ChelseaBoi

    ChelseaBoi Banned

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    #64
    I`ll explain them all, let no misunderstanding occur.

    Yes, it says that Islam is the RIGHT religion, however it does not say that we have to destroy other religions, though it encourages us to promote it, but not violently. The Holy Propher (pbuh) promoted Islam, and wars ONLY and ONLY occured when someone violently started persecuting muslims, otherwise it was only verbal.

    However, what is important is that it does not tell US to humiliate them, but tells us that Allah will in the end grant us victory, that ALLAH will humiliate them at some time, he does not tell us to do it.

    If you have any other mis understanding, post it.
     
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    mssarath Well-Known Member

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    #65
    before that world maps, some time ago in BC , there was only egyptian civilization , does it mean that now egypt own all land? we came across many wars through out the man kind, and after world war second we formed a UN to monitor , the UN doesn't mean they should study the biblical map and give back every land to the countries as in christ's time, let us focus on our now world map, and respect the countries in UN, there may be some border problems with countries , that can understand, but you are not even ready to accept a country palestine.
     
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  6. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #66
    Exactly.
    Damn right! :)

    Totally agree.

    I do, I'm willing to have a Palestinian country on the West bank and in Gaza strip, and I'm also for Israel helping Palestine establish as a democratic country that controls its civilians with proper security forces, and I'm also for Israel helping train those forces.

    The only thing that I'm against is Hamas. I don't want the country to be lead by a terrorist organization, and as soon as the Palestinians are lead by an organization that is truly modern and not extremist - I'll be the first one to shake their hand.
     
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    imad Peon

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    #67
    GeorgeB, you are a good example of Americanism, I know not all Americans are stupid ignorant as you, but the questions you asked been already answered in this thread, nobody is going to rid you of your ignorance, except yourself, if you want, the stupid part is when you comment on something you have no knowledge about, if you want to comment, learn some info first.
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    #68
    We should turn the clock back to the middle ages. The stronger country can conquer the weaker. No squabbling, no questions asked. Just people dying left and right. A semi-permanent state of war.
     
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    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #69

    You hate us because we are better than you :)

    Now where is the ban?
     
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  10. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #70
    lol maybe its you who doesn't know much ? I'm not talking about the conflict, and yes I am talking about facts and not propaganda.

    Have fun.

    Remember there is no 'good' and 'bad' side here. They're all guilty.


    lol good idea.
     
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  11. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #71
    It is propaganda. I'm not saying it's not true, but it's like saying:

    A killed B! He should be condemned to murder! While really what happened is A was a policeman who was in a gunfight against armed robbers who shot him first. (I'm not referring to the British, but there's a big ass story about Israel in the 1900-1948, including why everything happened and how it unfolded. )
     
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  12. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #72
    Oh I see, so anytime a Muslim blows up a building its terrorism, and when an Israeli blows up a building its propaganda ?

    It's all starting to get clearer now ... :D
     
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  13. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #73
    Anytime a Muslim blows himself up in an aiming to hurt civilians its terrorism.
    Anytime a Muslim sends rockets to civilian targets its terrorism.

    Anytime an Israeli jet blows up an area where weapons are being stored - It's a good thing.
    There's a new youtube channel that the IDF opened, it has some footage regarding what targets they actually blow up, and they also show you the secondary explosions there (aka hitting the actual area and then whatever's stored there - weapons \ explosives blow up)
     
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  14. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #74
    Oh nice a youtube channel being operated by IDF, that's not biased or anything.

    Do you have any reason why Israel won't let reporters into Gaza, the country they're attacking ? (LOL)
     
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #75
    http://www.youtube.com/user/idfnadesk
    You can look at it yourself and judge.
     
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #76
    We have a saying here it says "Those come from the mountain , Drive away the residents of the Garden" and also another saying "Those who are quilty are also strong" these two sticks with Israel.

    Immigration to Israel
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Immigration/Immigration_to_Israel.html

    Israel tries to increase immigration - USATODAY.com
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-02-20-israel-immigration_x.htm

    History will judge you no worries it always does.
     
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  17. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #77
    Zangief, they will give a jew anywhere in the world around 10,000 dollars just to move to Israel.
     
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    contentedge Active Member

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    #78
    Actually, that's true with Muslims all over the world. In fact, if I remember correctly, family planning is prohibited in Islam. Am I right?
     
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    #79
    The Balfour Declaration granted the Jews Israel as their national home. The Palestinians are mainly decended from Egyptians and Arab that migrated to the area between 1850-1939 under the Ottomans and British. The Arab countries should do more to accept the refugees that have immigrated to their countries. Actions speak louder than words.

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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #80
    In 1910-20, Palestine existed as state with its own borders as Jerusalem as its Capital (during the Ottman Empire). It was basically under the control of the Ottmans.

    Peace,
     
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