Pakistan still backing ant-India terror groups: US study

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  1. nightcrawlers

    nightcrawlers Active Member

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    #21

    The link you posted is shitty Indian Hindustan Times link Stupid! Think before you speak! or I do translation Damn How did you get all this information Hindustan Times is not biased we are the only one who is right! We ignore facts Damn you exposed the truth

    This is for you watch the mirror!!
     
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  2. sar420

    sar420 Notable Member

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    #22
    Dude, control your emotions. Firstly, I think you have got the impression that I am calling all news media in Pakistan 'shitty'. That is not the case. I really like the DAWN newspaper in Pakistan. One of the few that has got credibility in its reports and analysis.

    Secondly, Hindustan Times is a pretty decent newspaper in this part of the world. And the news report that I have linked to has been taken from the feed of the Indo-Asian News Service - as clearly mentioned below the headline of the article. I'm not sure you are even aware of the existence of wire news agencies like Reuters, AFP and Associated Press etc. I hope you do though. Many newspapers including Pakistan's DAWN outsource some of their reports to these wire agencies.

    In any case do point out any report in Hindustan Times in which you find flaws or which is biased. I can show you at least five that I picked up within 2 minutes of going through rupeenews.com
     
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  3. nightcrawlers

    nightcrawlers Active Member

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    #23
    I can show you that this news is biased and actually it has brain washed you.. You claim other News sources are not authentic and you are calling your own country news is the most authentic.

    There is clearly evidence of above stated facts... Indians arms and ammunition is found and Talibans are using Indian made weapons against American and Pakistani Soldiers.

    Indian Terrorists Behind Attack on Sri Lankan Cricketers in Lahore – Updated Full Coverage

    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/...nd-attack-on-sri-lankan-cricketers-in-lahore/
     
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  4. sar420

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    #24
    Again you are giving me a link that is not even from a news website..its a ****ing blog! Cant you see that? Even I can post anything on my blog and pass it off as news. Dont you understand the word credibility?

    Btw I also claimed that Pakistan's DAWN is an authentic source of news. Why are you ignoring that?
     
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  5. nightcrawlers

    nightcrawlers Active Member

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    #25
    What makes Hindustan Times credible? They are Indian news channel what do you expect from them? Praise Pakistan rather India?

    Now these are links saying India Involve in terrorism in Sri Lanka These are not Pakistani Links..

    http://indianterrorism.bravepages.com/ltte.htm

    Another India supports terrorism not pakistani website

    http://www.bhopal.net/opinions/archives/2006/03/india_supports.html

    This is an Indian website... Terrorists in North-East India get support from America

    http://www.hvk.org/articles/0703/107.html

    Brainwashing is easy to do rather speaking about facts...

    Talibans are killing Pakistani people check statistics how many Pakistani people have been killed by Talibans terrorist.. Hundreds of Soldiers died fighting with them... You are saying they are supporting Taliban to kill their own people and Soldiers? Can you digest this BS? I cannot..
     
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    swiftsaves Well-Known Member

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    #26
    o here we are again with another thread. yesterday was islam today pakistan wooow. keep it up guys good job .
     
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  7. sar420

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    #27
    1. Hindustan Times is a newspaper, not a news channel.
    2. You're again posting non-news links. Anyone can make a page on bravepages.com and talk shit. I think have already explained enough and now will rest my case.
    3.Brainwashing...who is brain washing whom? Remembering your madrassah days my friend?

    Just because the Taliban are also killing Pakistanis does not automatically qualify them to have been funded by India. Your government created monsters and allowed them to flourish and now the monster is trying to gobble its creator.

    The link I posted was talking about how Pakistan supported and funded militant groups like Lashkar-e-tayyeba, Jaish-e-Mohammed etc to forment trouble in Indian Kashmir and later the rest of India.. Lashkar-e-tayyeba still functions in Pakistan despite being banned under its so called charitable arm jamaat-ud-dawa. Religious political parties in Pakistan have links with these mass murderers.
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

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    #28
    Portions of this article might help to explain the strangeness that we're seeing in this thread: Honor and Shame in a Middle Eastern Setting (and yes, I understand that's we're a bit East of the Middle East, but Pakistan has absorbed the Arab culture and religion)

    The Pakistani's are shamed because of their failure to defeat the Taliban and they are seeking some outside force to blame for their failure. India, a traditional Pakistani boogeyman, is chosen regardless of how ridiculously silly it is to claim that the Hindu's are funding, training, and arming a group of Islamists who want to murder or enslave every Hindu on Earth.
     
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    #29
    This has to be the most hilarious material I have ever read :p
    No other nation has agreed to the pakistan's allegations on "India" been involved in terrorism on pakistan r afghanistan soil, while most of the nations do agree Pakistan is officially sponsoring terrorism into India

    Its hard to digest the fact being an own nationalite I agree, but you can't hide the facts, even America has an ugly face in the name of CIA
    Laden and India supports must be the biggest joke of the decade, one who supports muslims is supported by an Hindu majority nation lol!!! I might need more than a few "tissues" to stop my laughter

    if really India had supported Talibans, the first and foremost requirement of ours would have been to kill terrorists who are making a mess especially in Kashmir region, that includes Hafiz Saeed as well, may be you forgot JuD is funded and trained by Talibans, India would never even make a friendship deal with an terror outfit which harms our necessities

    now, Indian terrorism in Afghanistan is another dubious report that's on by the pak for years now, pak literally hates India's involvement in re-building of Aghanistan, its scared for the fact India might pressurize "pak" from both ends, but India has no such intent. We are peace lovers, we never went into war on our own before and we never will unless you guys provoke it in a very ugly manner. It was Indian tourists and ambassadors who were attacked by the Talibans in feb10, who stayed in a hotel as a cultural programme was to be conducted, but they were gunned and bombed down by the Taliban outfits which has proved even Pak's army/ISI influence in the attack,

    for your info, pakistan media had even reported Mumbai 26/11 attacks originated with in India and Kasab was even an Indian and not a pakistani, as a bitter news his parents are in PoK and all the alleged killed terrorists were linked back to pakistani origins

    India has never supported terrorism and never will. We are not backed by religious outfits to call "Jihad", we are more of peace lovers.
    Balochistan isn't an issue of concern for India, we have never interfered in the matter and never will, Balochistan is a land that's been mis-governed and corruption in deeper levels, which has raised loss of patience in few groups in the area, ISI was quick to blame this on to India (what does India have to do when a country can't do for its own good), so it blamed India for any terror activities, ISI were alarmed for the factor that may be Balochistan might be divided from Pakistan like Bangladesh so they have started mind wars, if this terrorism is true why is it rejected by all the nations ?. Even your own friends and allies don't believe these allegations, this includes even the Arab counterparts.

    India involved in srilanka cricket team bomb attack has to be the best comedy, first they say its India, later they claim its LTTE, may be they have to choose which one to select to push the blame on, LTTE might have not attacked cricketers in Pak risking all the factors, while they could easily have attacked these players in their own nation

    pak has to grow up, media has been always diverting the real facts, and one has to understand the fact pak. govt. is a mere doll in the hands of ISI and Army, if govt. tries to overpower them, they would be thrown off and Army rule would be imposed once again, its happened already and it will repeat again.

    Pak. Army is probably the only armed force country in the world, which involves in building up bridges under its contract, so you have to understand the kind of power which army has.

    Pak. own president has no clue under whose governance ISI falls under, he failed to answer to a question to Obama when asked about the same,

    about how many pakistanis killed compared to Indians, is totally a different issue, Taliban hasn't reached to India's borders yet (at least hope so) to cause damage to Indians, when you have a terror outfit and you try to play double game with the US and Talibans you are definitely going to face heat from both the ends, that's what causing the menace at the moment

    pakistan had always claimed India in water terrorism - India has never stopped water to pakistan, according to the agreement signed around independence days India wasn't supposed to store water and allow free supply to pakistan, which we have obliged, we have built dams with no storage capacity, which totally function for the electricity/power needs and not for storage needs, the water is flushed down to pakistan,
    Why isn't pakistan answering the fact of the Contaminating Sutlej b'coz of which hundreds of families are suffering from toxic waste, you can check out where the waste goes from pakistan's institutions across the Sutlej,

    in simple

    India will not sponsor terrorism either for our benefits or necessities, we are totally against it and there is no other answer for it, if you believe India is still involved in promoting terrorism, then drive by in your dream world, you are never going to notice the outside world.



    peace!!!! We would love to have friendly relationship with neighbors if they are really up for it, we are not interested in playing double games, last time we offered friendship they ran through kargil like bunch of pigs and had war, which they refused at front and later we forced to agree, if India is really involved in such activity we would be bold enough to declare it.

    Peace!!! this thread is going too much out of the topic :p
     
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  10. nightcrawlers

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    #30
    If you have the individual opinion to closing your eyes on fact than I would also say I don't believe it...

    In India there are much more terrorist Tamil and others

    They Kill people in Gujrat

    Facts are clearly showing they are supporting Talibans

    And yes to Will Spencer post when there is failure outside forces are blamed India always blame Pakistan.
     
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    #31
    Talibans were created by Americans I guess you forgot! they funded them in war against USSR! Now they are funded by Indians... Balouchistan Liberation Army a terrorist group funded by Indians even INdian arms and ammunition are supplied.
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

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    #32
    I guess facts don't matter at all?

    India has reason to blame Pakistan -- because there is definitive proof. The Mumbai terrorists didn't materialize out of thin air -- they were funded, trained, armed, and controlled from Pakistan.

    As a Westerner, guilt and innocence are important to me. To me, it's not "the same" if two parties accuse each other and one guilty while the other is not guilty.

    You cannot wipe clean Pakistani guilt with baseless accusations against India.

    The U.S. funded some groups to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. The Taliban was a group which the U.S. did not fund. The Taliban were and are largely funded by private donations from Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations.
     
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    #33
    Absolutely no point pointing out facts to him. Only propaganda is going to be believed by our friend here.

    I don't know if you've heard of this Will but right after the Mumbai attacks when evidence was being unearthed of a Pakistan based group's involvement, there was a massive media propaganda blitz in Pakistan. "Poltical analysts and experts"in Pakistan were claiming that India got the attack done on itself to malign Pakistan and go to war against it. The place is full of gullible people wanting to ingest all kinds of conspiracy theories. In fact, I would like you to read this blog article in the New York Times about how conspiracy theories abound in that Islamic country.

    To NightCrawler, you really need better reasoning skills mate. Try backing up your arguments with neutral (i.e. not based in your country) and credible links. I am no longer going to argue with you because its like banging my head against a solid wall. Enjoy the conspiracy theories while they last ;)
     
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    #34
    That is freaking scary. :(
     
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    #35
    Great article! Blogmaster should be thrilled to read it. It means he is going to have lots of customers for his website.
     
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    #36
    Nice way to deny the links I have posted!
     
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    #37
    There is a search feature on DAWN's website www.dawn.com , just type in this three letter word in it "RAW" ;) , here is one of the search results I found http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...rs-to-the-editor/indias-covert-operations-989 here is another http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/16-the-raw-dossier-hs-02
     
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    #38
    I don't have an issue with the links, per se, but with the fantastically poor quality of the data I analyzed on the pages.

    It was "fanciful", as if written by children who believe that the world is whatever they wish it to be.
     
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    #39
    Well said freedom of speech should not be taken lightly or given up for a ulterior motives. Hitler was good case in point he stopped freedom of speech at the end of a gun. Because that is how powerful our freedom of speech is and how threatening it can be for regimes.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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