Pakistan girl jailed, accused of blasphemy

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by browntwn, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #41
    To us(Americans) absolutely not. You'll have a harder time convincing India.

    That assumes we are dealing with rational actors in Pakistan who actually give a crap about their population. You should read some of Mikael's posts here. He is more than happy to vaporize a few million of his fellow Muslims if it serves what he considers to be the greater good. You also need to be thinking about delivery systems other than a missile. A boat or a truck would do quite nicely. Not too tough to park a boat in a Harbor in New York, Liverpool, or Quebec and vaporize a few million people.

    I completely agree with this in principal. The trick is putting it into practice. Perhaps in another 10 years, we will have the technology required to track the movements of every nuke on the planet, even if being transported in a lead coffin. Perhaps then, we can let them starve and simply drone strike any nuke being moved some place it shouldnt.
     
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  2. John Bull

    John Bull Active Member

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    #42
    Hi sat,

    Toblerone ? I hear the US Police are now throwing away their spike sticks and using Toblerone instead, by special permission of Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.

    But never mind that chocolate crap. While we are taking the piss out of Switzerland, the top brass in Pakistan are in serious discussion on how best to kill this little girl in order to appease their religious mania.

    Should we chop her head off in the accepted Muslim fashion, drag her behind a truck until there is nothing left, chuck her in a pit full of Cobra`s, dissect her alive, burn her at the stake, bury her up to her head in sand and let the ants do the rest or simply run over her with a 100 ton tank ?

    The choice is both infinite and challenging. After all they have to extract the most pain and suffering in order to satisfy the sacred doctrine which they follow with blind unquestionable and fanatical obedience like robotic Lemmings.
     
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  3. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Someone brought up Switzerland in post 26 .. saying that it was a model country and how great they are..
     
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  4. John Bull

    John Bull Active Member

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    #44
    Thanks sat for that information. Quite frankly, I always thought that Switzerland, far from being a model country, were famous for stashing away tax frauds millions, stashing away criminals millions, including Nazi gold and billions in cash, cowbells, Alpine Horns, blokes slapping their leather shorts and of course chocolate.

    Oh by the way, these Swiss fairies have never had a war in a hundred years and have been living in a Cuckoo land of false economic prosperity, safety and personal wealth all their pretty little lives. OK, life in the West is not a joy-ride, but I would rather have my experience of up`s and down`s, wars and conflicts, economic hardships and be proud of being a real person than some delicate molly-coddled Swiss fairy.

    So now let us bury Switzerland and concentrate on those Paki nutters.
     
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  5. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #45
    I don't think that the people of Pakistan are nuts, But they are misled by those in power, those that did have a public school English education.

    Yet those in power hold back a good education from the common people of Pakistan, keep them in the dark, force holy prayers on them instead of maths or chemistry,, Or to read English or French,, like we had to in our schools.
    In short, from the time they are young, all they have really learned in school is the Quran, and not the good,, the other one.

    That way when someone like Salman Rushdie writes a book (IN ENGLISH) that 90% of the Pakistan people can not read or understand,, Those in power, those that can read it,, can tell common people of Pakistan they are not to like this book, and to demonstrate in the streets. We then see the spectacle on CNN of illiterate thugs burning images of some poor writer, because of some book they know nothing about, only what their more educated leaders tell them.
     
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  6. thesickearth

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    #46
    If I understand correctly the girl has a Down's syndrome and her blasphemy consisted of having koran pages inside of a trashbag.

    Two questions.
    How somebody with a down syndrome can possibly understand the Bible/New testament and truly become a Christian?
    How in the world her doings can be interpreted as blasphemy?
     
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  7. thesickearth

    thesickearth Active Member

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    #47
    It is, in certain conditions. As for the girl, its really weird, normally, according to Islamic, Judaic and Christian traditions, she should have been publicly stoned in front of her father's porch.
     
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    #48
    What are you talking about ? Stalin had never closed churches since they have been opened by Hitler in 1941. Furthermore, many priests , and certainly all leaders were KGB /internal security officers, it is a commonly known fact.
    As for religion, about 5% of adult Russians are visiting the church regularly.
     
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  9. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #49
    From the article

    "Few people in Pakistan actually speak or read Arabic, so often assume that anything they see with Arabic script is believed to be from the Quran, sometimes the only Arabic-language book people have seen."

    Since burnt pages of the Quran equals blasphemy in Pakistan and "Christian" girl had burnt pages with Arabic script on them people decided she was guilty of blasphemy. Sounds perfectly sane right?
     
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  10. thesickearth

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    #50
    Nobody dragged USA into WW2. MANY tried to make it mind its own business, unsuccessfully.
     
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    #51

    Out of curiosity how much money do YOU send to Pakistan every year?
     
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  12. ApocalypseXL

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    #52
    While it was mandatory for many priests to server as informants or risk execution . As for Stalin he proudly demolished churches :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Christ_the_Saviour#Demolition .

    His followers did the same thing :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1958–1964)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1970s–1990)
     
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  13. John Bull

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    #53
    NO chum, it is NOT right ! It is the act of primitive, mindless savages indoctrinated by principles that can only be described as barbaric and reminiscent of early tribal behavior. This kind of inhuman practice disappeared from civilized countries with the demise of human sacrifices. Through science and progress the Western World has moved on from the time of our Ape-like ancestors.

    Me ? Thanks to a good education, I have learnt that any form of religion is simply a fairy story of worshiping some hypothetical figure who most likely never existed, or if they did, their image and messages have been so distorted over Centuries by many writers over- enthusiasm that the result is no more than a huge imaginary and largely incorrect concoction of individual stories.

    Consequently I am a devoted Atheist, who does not believe one jot in stoning people to death for adultery, which is considered a national sport in most countries and also without the slightest doubt amongst the higher classes and ruling elite in many Islamic countries.

    You should see these fanatical Islamic devotees knocking back the booze and shagging their female escorts on their frequent visits to Western countries - no signs of the Holy Quran with it`s harsh punishment by various delightful means on those occasions. Rubbish ? Not at all, I have seen it many times.

    By the way, there is no such thing as Blasphemy, THAT is something which is hatched out of sick minded individuals to punish those who just happen to disaggree with their perverted thinking and practices.

    OK, there is a Blasphemy law in the UK to our sinful shame, it goes back to the Middle Ages and has never been dumped. A cross of shame for a so-called civilsed society. Of course nobody takes any notice of it, but it is there in case our wonderful rulers feel free to use it.
     
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    thesickearth, Sep 4, 2012 IP