Pakistan girl jailed, accused of blasphemy

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by browntwn, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. John Bull

    John Bull Active Member

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    #21
    Very well said, an epitaph to a crap backward and barbaric country run by unbelievable nutters and nothing but a pain in the butt to the rest of the world.

    America themselves have incurred a massive national debt of over $16 Trillion and has the balmy audacity to give Pakistan £1 Billion per year plus food supplies !!

    My verdict ? Let the buggers starve to death and good riddance. The bastards nursed Osama bin Laden next to their toy soldier barracks for years, thinking he would be nice and safe. Well - HE WAS`NT and the Yanks shot his eye out, then polluted the sea by dumping the bastard in it for the poor fish to poison themselves on.
    Whoopee ! Made my day.

    Where does Pakistan spend the over-generous American hand-out ? On military expenditure of course and propping up the lavish lifestyles of their decadent rulers and officials. The people get bugger all and live in desperate need and squalor.

    My wish for this prime example of a parasitic country ? Have a nice flood, earthquake, drought or any damned thing that erases this lump of geological shit from the face of the Earth. Long live India !
     
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    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #22
    You misunderstand my post,, I am not having a pop at the Pakistan and it's people, most of whom do no harm to anybody.

    My gripe is with the rulers and officials that impose draconian religious laws on their people.
    Many high ranking rulers and officials have an English education behind them, and make sure their sons and daughters have one also.
    In fact many high ranking rulers and officials, make sure make sure their sons and daughters live in London, where they can have a real life, an education and a future.
    Daughters of high ranking officials do not get whipped at the food market place because they have not covered up enough, they go to fancy nightclubs in London and sip champagne.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    We send them cash to avoid the disintegration of their state, it is true, though not because a dying Paki state would starve it's people but rather because a defunct government in Pakistan would quickly lose track of it's nuclear arsenal. Before you know it, a Paki nuke "pops up" in NYC, London, Spain or Canada, or more likely India. Imagine Somalia with nukes.

    Personally, I'd say screw the Pakis and the rest of the planet, and spend the money on our border security, but a billion a year boost in our border security would probably only represent a 1% increase in the budget.
     
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    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #24
    You can't really say "screw Pakistan and the rest of the planet" .. We are all so inter connected these days.
    Isolationism is not an option any more,, the USA tried that post WW1, and few sunk ships soon changed that.
    Even without the Japs dragging the USA into WW2, Isolationism was dead in the water, as the USA were suppling the UK army with most of what they needed.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Economically speaking, it seems to be working out for China. Funding stability is not only expensive, it is a thankless task as people pile on about how we finance oppressive regimes while ignoring the grim alternative.

    I'm not advocating for isolationism, but I would probably be in favor of pegging our foreign aid to whatever China is offering. Pakistan is a lot closer to their borders than it is to ours.
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #26
    Isolationism works but only if limit the amount of imports , however to do so without loosing prosperity and growth requires a great deal of self sufficiency .

    Look at Switzerland and tell me what they did wrong so far .
     
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  7. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Switzerland is a tiny country, it is land locked, so no need for a navy, their air force can only fly for 20 minutes in a straight line before they run into some other air space and have to turn back. So no real air force either.
    They do not need really need a army, but do have a very very small one, so no real cost there to their tax payers.
    They do not look kindly on emigrants and really really NOT kindly on NON european emigrants, (they let very few in), so again no real cost to their tax payers.

    Switzerland is run on a shoe string budget, aside from some banking, they provide very little to the world in general. (have been known to melt down a few gold fillings in the past)
    In fact if Switzerland was beamed up to the moon tomorrow, it might be a few days before we all realized they were gone..
     
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    #28
    Indeed, I do hope that the day will come and the US will withdraw its financial support to Pakistan as USA need it for its local economy and let the people starve or kill each other.
     
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    #29
    It's fortunate that most people have a bit more compassion for their fellow humans than you do. What an evil wretch you are to agree with a post that rightly condemns the corrupt leaders of Pakistan for the problems in the country and then state that you hope the people of Pakistan starve...having agreed that it is the leaders that are to blame. You are either mentally disturbed or just pure evil. Disgusting!
     
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    #30
    Ya think so ?
    Answer is both Pure Evil and Mentally Disturbed. You really can't wait can you !

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    #31
    What's really worrying is that THAT is probably true.


    Wassup? Truth hurt?
     
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    #32
    Classic example of liberal cognitive dissonance. Evil America funds lunatics in Pakistan, but should evil America withdraw it's funding it would be even more evil for wanting people to starve. Rationality not spoken here apparently.

    Or the implied but unlikely outcome Pladecalvo couldn't fathom: let the people succeed and thrive on their own, like their neighbors to the south are doing.


    Or as a French philosopher once put it, "we get the leaders we deserve". The same is true for the Palestinians and Hamas, Spain and Zapatero, etc, etc, etc.
     
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    #33
    Religion is made by Human being.
    Religion never tells to hurt others, but some bad guys change the rules for their personal benefits.

    I'm seeing many new religions are being created for good purpose.
    But later the bad guys from the religion get the power and do what ever they want.

    Religion also says to forgive. If your religios book says not to forgive, then it's forged.

    You should know that, God is there in every person.
    Every religion believes that, The God is there in children.

    So when ate something, our elders says to give the food to the children before.
    Basically I have met with people from many religion. They are old and wise too.

    So if you hurt that little girl, Your God won't forgive you.

    Proud to be Indian. All religions are same to our law. But still few bad guys there.
     
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    #34
    These are the nutheads USA supports with money protesting against the killing of OBL. Pathetic.
    I'd rather put my taxpayers money in some other means than to feed these jerks. There are more deserving people other than these pricks.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. John Bull

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    #35
    What you are saying is a scenario that our most diligent friends in America are a bunch of neorotics who think that if we do not feed these savages, some nutter element of their despicable breed will pop off one of their toy nukes, hoping to accurately hit a target about 8,000 miles way.

    It is preposterous. In effect it is inferring that a little shit-hole like Pakistan can blackmail the most powerful nation on Earth into feeding them and giving them $1 Billion each year. If Russia could not do THAT during the Cold War with all their massive high tech fire power, surely it is insane to think that some poxy little rag-bag country like Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, etc. or even China could do it. Forget that theory !

    I don`t know why the US pump food and money into this Paki pox-hole, probably still have some scary residual notion that it would become Communist f they did not. What if it did ? who cares ?

    Anyhow, these flea bitten countries with their nuclear toys are no threat. They probably do not have the deliverance and accurate guidance technology to hit their local Mosque, let alone targets many 1,000`s of miles away. Once they lit the fuse, they would most likely vaporize half of Pakistan with luck.

    But look on the bright side. Just ONE (and the US have many more) nuclear submarine in the Indian Ocean has enough missile fire power to reduce most of Asia including China, plus a good bite of Russia back to the Stone Age and still return to base with a tidy number of missiles left over for the next tea party.

    OK, Pakistan is a big shit-hole inhabited by morons with a 2,000 year old mentality and they love enforcing their crap beliefs on 11 year old children by brutal application. Well, if that is what lights their savage candles, then let them enjoy every minute of it, but please America, don`t feed the stinking barbaric bastards and give them massive financial hand-outs to do it.

    PS - OH, now I know where all those $1 Billion`s have gone - INTO THE HUGE COST OF DEVELOPING NUCLEAR WEAPONS !! While the population starve to death.
     
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    #36
    Get an economics book man . Switzerland has a huge role in banking , especially in stabilizing the financial market , the food giant Nestle is also Swiss and they produce a huge amount of food additives . They also produce large amounts of medicine via Sandoz and they are renowned for luxury watches such as Rolex and Omega .

    Also Swiss expertise is almost indispensable when it comes to precision built installations . As for immigrants they are very friendly with two conditions , the fist one is to adder to their culture completely (hard to do if your not European) and the second one is not to ask for right conferred to citizens . Their citizenship law requires to work and live there continuously for 15 years , after that you can apply for citizenship and the local community votes on your request . So if you've been an asshole you'll get booted .
     
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    #37
    Quite right and well put. I only wish that the human race would comprehend exactly THIS very fact. Religion is an abstract series of ancient statements and theoretical ideas written by scholars in primitive times, usually about some hypothetical and Godly figure and is blindly accepted as indisputable sacred fact by millions of humans, regardless of the massive and frequent variety of sufferings inflicted upon them.

    Strange really, since no other life species on Earth either needs it or has it and life goes on.
    But obviously man finds it impossible to live without it. How odd.
     
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    #38
    Nestle makes nothing,, But did buy a lot of French and English companies that do.
    The world could live just fine if there were no Rolex and Omega watches.

    I still stand over what I said in my post above.
    If Switzerland was beamed up to the moon tomorrow, it might be a few days before we all realized they were gone..
     
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    #39
    No country is indispensable and neither is that technologically, scientifically useful and obscene tax fiddling, money laundering Haven of piffling Switzerland. Like you say, if this geological and natural wonder disappeared with a PUFF tomorrow - Big Yawn - my dog would still enjoy his breakfast.

    Hey sat - How the hell did Switzerland get in on the act ? We are supposed to be talking about Pakistan. Do the Swiss bale them out as well with some of those millions of stolen Nazi bucks they still have stashed away or do they send them a few Nestle`s chocolates ?
     
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    #40
    The Swiss are to blame,, that dam triangular chocolate has us all driven nuts....
     
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