Pak Taliban is threatening to attack America and Europe

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by it career, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #21
    Alexis, I don't remember the last time I gave you a rep but it still says "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to alexispetrov again." :)
     
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  2. it career

    it career Notable Member

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    #22
    You did not read all of my posts in that thread , I said a girl who is willingly having sex with 10 guys one by one and if a 11th guy joins in and she files a rape case
    I do not consider the 11th guy as a rapist until it is proven in the court of law.

    I also talked about the CEO of a multi billion dollar company who were having sex with mutual consent with many girls , but the moment one girl slaped a sexual harrassment case after 3-4 years of the incidence , the guy lost his job , the company lost few billions dollar in share value,
    The girl must have been blackmailing the CEO for so many years and suddenly decided to file a case.

    If a girl has got some amount of ethics left , she will file a rape or a sexual harrasment case immediately after the event and not try to milk the culprit
    for years and then file a sexual harrassment case.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    itcareer, I would like to see you to address these very legitimate issues.
     
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  4. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #24
    @it career:
    avatars don't determine the genders r sexuality - its an avatar and not a photo id.

    I have a dog and cat as my avatar, does that make me an animal ? Don't drag un-necessary avatar issues,

    @helvetti:
    may b u r not aware of the fact that reputation in the general chat forum doesn't count, I didn't say that DD said it before.
     
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  5. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #25
    That's OK Helvetti - thanks for trying :)

    itcareer - I was the one you were talking at when you made your original post discussing rape. You did not say that you would not believe it until it was proven in court until several days later. What you said was that if she is having sex with 10 guys and then the 11th joins in that it is not rape and that if she makes a report to the police she is whining. Apparently, she has different rights than a chaste women, or a whoreish man.

    Your double standard relating to men VS women is insane. Guy has consensual sex with many women, gets sued for harassment, it's a tragedy. Girl has consensual sex with many men, gets raped, she's a fucking whore and is "whining" if she goes to the cops.

    Luckily your original post will be here forever as it's too late to edit it now. Reread it. You say nothing of whether it is proven in court for days after that post - only that the woman is asking for it and it isn't "real" rape. It's only after Rebecca confronts you that you claim otherwise.

    What was it that you said about the bat shit insane cleric who stated women who don't dress modestly are "asking for it"? Remind us.

    You still haven't addressed the questions at hand, so I'll ask one of them again, very clearly and specifically. I'd like answers, so would Will - and I'm betting many others would too.

    You stated if a woman has sex with 10 men that she deserves to be raped by the 11th. (Effectively. What you said was that it wasn't rape and she was whining if she reported it.)

    Do you believe that a man who has sex with 10 women also deserves to be raped? Yes or no?
     
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  6. it career

    it career Notable Member

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    #26
    Dear Alexis,
    It might have been a miscommunication from my part, english is not my first language as you can see from my posts.
    Here is my opinion about the matter.
    "No man or woman should have sex with someone whom he or she does not love and whom he or she is not married to"
    (Again I am not asking people to rape their wife as few people made this conclusion from one of my post)
    "Having sex without love is simmilar to prostitution"

    You may not agree with it , but everybody has the liberty to have their own opinions and principles , is it not?
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #27
    Sure, as long as you don't try to enforce your severely unhealthy fear of sex on anyone -- especially children.
     
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  8. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #28
    I have no problem with those opinions; I don't agree with them 100% but I don't think they're bad.

    That said - my issue is not that you don't like these things, or that you think they are wrong, or that sex without love is like prostitution - I can respect all of those opinions.

    The problem is that you believe a woman who is promiscuous (do you know this word?) and gets raped, then reports it, is whining - and you stated earlier that it wasn't rape/she had it coming if it was the one guy she didn't sleep with after sleeping with the other 10 at a party/club/whatever.

    Disapproving of her actions is one thing, but trying to make rape into less of a crime is what does not sit well with me. Rape is a horrible offense - it often ruins the rest of the victim's life. It is not the same as a physical assault or a mugging or whatnot - it's the type of thing that changes a person for the rest of their life.

    While it is wrong to sleep with a huge number of people, this does not make the victim getting raped any less of a crime.

    This is akin to saying that you could give food or change to 10 beggers on the street, but if you didn't give any to the 11th, say because he was clearly stoned or drunk, that he has the right to beat you and rob you.

    You also said that while a woman who is promiscuous gets raped and reports it is whining, but a man who was sued for doing the same thing was an innocent victim and you were very angry that he got sued. (Being sued is infinitely better than being raped.)

    This is what bothers me - the fact that you seem to think there are cases where rape is OK, or at least not as serious as other times - and the fact that you have a double standard as far as thinking men who sleep around should be sympathized with if sued, but the woman is whining if she reports the fact that she was raped.

    Does any of that make sense to you or can you honestly not understand why rape is NEVER, ever OK? And that no time is less horrific than another?

    We (all people, male or female) have the right to have sex with any consenting adult we like - without the fear of being raped.

    If you think anyone who is promiscuous should be raped, or deserves it, or is whining to report it - so long as it's a woman - then you may as well convert to Islam.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #29
    I do not believe this is wrong -- for a person of either gender.

    That's the point I want to be sure doesn't get overlooked.
     
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  10. alexispetrov

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    #30
    Sorry Will, I almost reworded that then didn't.

    As I said earlier in the post I don't agree with that 100% - that it is wrong, I mean - I just meant that going under that assumption, that these would still be the facts.

    I don't think that sleeping with a large number of people is wrong, no - and it's certainly no better/worse for either gender - I'm all for doing what you like if it harms no one else. :)
     
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  11. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #31
    sorry to break u up, but in general sense sleeping with "lots of people" means there is some thing seriously wrong with the person, one who can't stick to his partner or get adjusted.
    I am not against any one having sex with lots of them :p its just weird for me, may b 5 to 10 through out the life might sound decent not any more than that for sure (if sex is ruled out on sleeping with others, then may b my view would be different :p).
    Gender is an issue totally out of factor, the desires are same for both sexes.

    either have fun and get a worthy and happy partner for the life should be a nice and neat motto ;)
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #32
    That's what you prefer; your preferences are not universal.

    Whatever floats your boat!
     
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  13. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #33
    ya my preferences are not universal as well any others that includes u too, I was just making my pt with regards to the subjected studies on human psychology (I ain't a pyschologist just love the topic a lot :D) :p

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #34
    EVERYONE NEEDS TO RUN THIS GUY IS RIGHT. THEY ARE COMING TO GET EVERYONE AND WE SHOULD RUN!!!

    If they ever get out of their caves and stop hiding from us first.

    Any religion that says you need to follow their ways or your going to die is a cult not a religion. At least get your points right. These guys aren't Islam followers they are cult followers. I mean why isn't Osama Bin Ladin blowing himself up in the name of his cult? He is just a power hungry coward.
     
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  15. alexispetrov

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    #35
    Masterrio, it is a personal preference as Will said - there is nothing wrong with sleeping with a lot of people, although yes, often the people who do that kind of thing do have personal problems; but many don't, and so long as no one gets hurt I see no harm in it.

    Personally, at this stage of my life, sleeping with multiple people would be wrong for me. I do believe that a committed and exclusive relationship is the right thing - but again, it's a personal preference.
     
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  16. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #36
    that's true, I was just giving the majority opinion by an psychiatric survey conducted around 4 - 5 months back. I am not against any one doing "anything" as long it doesn't harm the 3rd party or the society 1;)

    lol! about u I can't comment, as it would be ur personal issue and for me to poke nose into it would be real bad :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Alevoor

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    #37
    You couldn't have said it better. I am yet to read itcareer's post that made you write this. So my point is only about your logic and strong opinion which have really put things in right perspective.
     
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  18. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #38
    Thank you. I typically enjoy reading your recent posts here, although I did just disagree with one regarding the term "Monkey", but I don't think I was too harsh ^-^;

    I think itcareer probably regrets making the post, although as his beliefs haven't been properly clarified yet it's hard to say. I'll try to link to it if I post again here, right now I'm just waking up and my brain isn't working yet, lol.
     
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  19. Alevoor

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    alexispetrov

    Just came here after replying to your concerns here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1929000&p=14931402#post14931402.

    edit
    Anyways, thanks for your understanding. Interesting to see how Muslim fanatics would have taken that.

    Instead, I would say these are nuts whose thought mechanisms haven't properly formed and there is no hope even for the long times to come.
     
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