Painful just to imagine

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Codythebest, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. #1
    Two french citizens have been kidnapped in Somalia. They will be tried as soon as possible under sharia, or islamic law and punished accordingly, by lapidation and/or amputation...
    It's painful just to get the picture in mind...

    Now, we know islamic muslims seek death for infidels/ non believers in Allah. So what the hell those 2 guys were doing there???
    I'm atheist and I will never, ever put a foot in Egypt or Oman, damnit...
    They won't like me and I don't want to disturb them in their place.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/07/18/somalia.french.hostages/index.html
     
    Codythebest, Jul 18, 2009 IP
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8157415.stm
     
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  3. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    Oh yeah...no question...I knew what they were doing there...That was rhetorical...
    I meant "What the hell are they doing there? Even if the king of my country asked me to go work there for $1,000,000/month, I'll say no"...Buyt hey, they might be some "Rambo" willing to take risks after all, right?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    my bad. i thought you were trying to say they were kidnapped and maybe killed for their religious believes.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #5
    It's a desperate situation, there is still a chance the hostages will be rescued before that happens, let's hope.
     
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    What a barbaric, primitive part of the world.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #7
    Dream on, nobody will ask you to go for that kind of money. Iraq, Afghanstan,.... are full of mercenaries who work for about 15,000 /month. ;)
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    lol...................
     
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  9. Codythebest

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    Not sure if this reality is so funny, but hey, at least, in England, you have the right to laugh at it...Let's preserve that...
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    How is it reality? We have over 2.5 million muslims here none of them are trying to kill non muslims?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    Because it's illegal in England. If their fanatical, ranting protests are anything to go by a significant percentage would like to go around killing people for a variety of reasons, If they had the guts to.

    We are quite fortunate in England to have a particularly cowardly type of muslim. The type that rant about imperialistic oppressors while hiding behind imperialistic oppressors who are protect their right to do it like a dog that's just pissed on the kitchen floor.
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    Most probably because they are in England, where it is obviously prohibited to do those kind of things.
    But the Qu'ran is clear about infidels (anyone that does not believe in Allah).
     
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    This is very strange, I know europe has lots of muslims. But muslim countries don't have many europeans, unfair trade?
     
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    Reseg Peon

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    #14
    Maybe they just haven't identified you yet ;) Don't wear one of these and you'll be fine
    [​IMG]
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    Western countries are based on demoratic religious tolerance while muslim countries are not. A muslim coming to Canada has no problem to live. A Catholic Canadian will have some problem to live in a muslim country.

    Don't wear one of what?
    EDIT: saw the pictures now :)
     
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    #16
    Your western liberal values are kinda new. Your history is filled with instances like burning witches, crusades against non-believers, inquisitions, ethnic cleansing of Red Indians, racism & slavery. Western countries always believed they were a superior race, and set out to conquer the world. Most of them had colonies and imperial empires, where they tortured and killed and bribed to get hold of natural resources and man-power for their armies, and a market for their goods and a new source of taxes... Indian subcontinent, Africa and Latin America were mutilated by this Imperialistic ambitions of "white" westerners. Add to it Two World Wars, and many conflicts, killing millions of Europeans and Americans... Not quite a good record.

    Let us hope these liberal values survive when we hit the peak, and this civilization goes into a downward spiral with food shortages, mass starvation, water wars, resource wars... I'd like to see it tested...

    One in four Britons want population cut by a third.

    See... they don't want immigrants already...

    Seven in ten Britons want immigration slashed




    I like liberal values. I am a Libertarian. But I don't think the west is in any position to brag about it, not yet... not just yet.
     
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    Yes, the past is not brilliant in this world, everywhere.
    but TODAY, islam is the only religion that kills...
     
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  18. gauharjk

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    #18
    You are very short-sighted.& narrow-minded Please stop watching fox news and step out to actually see the reality... What your TV shows you may not always be the truth...
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    #19
    I think you have a point here.
    Yes, there are, out there, people killing in the name of religion, any religion.
    However, it is mostly isolated individuals, usually mentaly sick in some ways.
    Islamists are not isolated killers. They have been educated with strong beliefs coming from religious books, including hate...

    The fact that you are in denial is OK. From here, as atheist, you're free to do so. And as atheist, no matter what, we can argue and be the best friends.
    In your side, as atheist, can I be your best friend, knowing I need to see ful equality between a man and a woman, between a jew and a muslim, between a black and a white?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    do you believe killing in the name of any ideology and value judgment is bad or just when it is called religion
     
    pizzaman, Jul 21, 2009 IP