PageRank

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  1. Homer

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    #41
    The last update all my sites dropped 1 rank at least. My SERP's improved greatly and my traffic is at an all time high right now. So how exactly does PR factor into SERP's, I'm not clear on this.

    To me SERP's is the most critical part of your online success.
     
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  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #42
    Indeed it is -- at least for stage 1. Everything else is a means to that end.

    Stage 2 is producing a page for the visitors who find you that will make them want to stay, browse a bit, and buy something (assuming it's a site selling services or products).
     
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  3. Homer

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    #43

    Exactly...I believe the term is 'Sticky'. Yes my main core site does sell products for mainstream business. The 'sticky' element is something I am always developing. I have heard that Yahoo actually puts weight on the time visitors spend on a site.
     
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  4. T0PS3O

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    #44
    Can't be true unless they 1) have the Y toolbar (or other monitoring hence spyware Y related software) and 2) click through to more than 1 page.
     
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  5. Homer

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    #45
    I am trying to locate the article I read this from. It was around Dec 2004 when I read it and can't seem to find it. It was not at DP.

    http://toolbar.yahoo.com/ie

    Yahoo toolbar for IE
     
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  6. wendydettmer

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    #46
    There are a lot of people who don't use IE though. I use FF, and dislike having toolbars like that anyway.
     
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  7. Homer

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    #47
    On my servers stats for my highest traffic domain 85% of users are browsing with IE.

    I prefer FF as well. I think in the webmaster community, we need to test with IE, Netscape, FF. But in the grand scheme of things we are a minority. IE is still the most popular browser used in the world by a long shot.
     
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    #48
    Developing sticky sites is a science it itself. Has anyone come across any good resources for this area?
     
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  9. wendydettmer

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    #49

    oh yeah, i agree with that. My point was only that it seems unlikely that yahoo would base rankings on traffic if the only way it can tell is so unreliable.
     
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  10. Homer

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    #50
    I better be careful or we are going to get thrown in the Yahoo forum ;) What I am saying is that Yahoo's weighing formula for SERP's included (I don't know how much weight) the length of time a visitor spends on a site. As far as what technology is being used to do this I don't know that either. But I suspect it was what ever sampling they obtained from there own toolbar.

    I think they also track surfers that simply use the yahoo search. http://www.yahoo.com/ If you search for something here you will notice when you roll your mouse over any of the SERPs you, in fact, are not going directly to the site you are requesting...http://rds.yahoo.com/S=0247ty7...
     
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  11. expressweb

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    #51
    Page Rank is a science of calculation for Google where thy analyse backlinkes of a websites and the linking website's PR and navigation structure of website
     
    expressweb, Mar 15, 2005 IP
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    #52
    In ResaleBroker's "Pagerank Explained" he says that PR0 sites are usually in a ban. I don't agree with this at all. More like they are in the sandbox. All new sites are PR0, from my experience, and to assume they have some sort of "ban" is well, probably not very correct.
     
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  13. Homer

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    #53
    I think you are right. I thought there was also 'grey' color in the toolbar signifying a ban?
     
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    #54
    It used to be that a white bar PR0 was just a new site, while a gray bat PR0 meant a ban of some sort. But that hasn't been true for quite a while now. Actually, the Google Toolbar PR hasn't been worth much of anything for a long time now.

    Maybe it's better that way...
     
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  15. Homer

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    #55
    Thanks for clarifying the PR0/ grey issue, I wasn't sure about that. My serps are amazing right now with a lower PR than last update. So I am not really sure what the significance really is of pr, other than what it claims to be: 'importance' which may not necessarily relate to SERPs.

    What I wonder is should/ will there be a closer relationship between the two. Google says that PR is 1 of more than 100 factors that produce serps. You would think that those 100+ factors were IMPORTANT :confused:
     
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    #56
    I'm sure the 100 factors are important, but with that many factors, it's tough to have any one factor dominate over the others.
     
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    #57
    Minstrel: "Making predictions about a specific day or date is just outright silly." They probably are silly to you. To others that are interested when it will happen it may be important. It them a educated guessed based on past preformance gives them some what of an idea when to expect the update.
     
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    #58
    So how is that going to help that person? Purely for interest?
     
    T0PS3O, Mar 16, 2005 IP
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    #59
    Educated guess? You might as well go ask your cat. Who can give you an "educated guess"?? Maybe one of the chief engineers at Google.
    I agree with Mistrel, Making predictions about a specific day or date is just outright silly and a total waste of time.
     
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    #60
    PR is only one of some factors in google algorithm, not all.
     
    hanyixin, Mar 16, 2005 IP