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Pagerank of 0 on front page?

Discussion in 'Websites' started by remember, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. #1
    For some reason, the front page of my website http://www.DoYouRemember.co.uk is getting a PR of 0 despite the fact that nearly every inbound link points to this page.

    Some of the content pages are achieving reasonable PR but the first page (index.asp) has nothing.

    Someone suggested to me that it may be because my front page is not an .htm or .html file but I can't see why that would cause a problem. Another suggestion was that inbound links pointing just to the http://www.DoYouRemember.co.uk instead of the index page http://www.DoYouRemember.co.uk/index.asp might be the problem.

    Does anyone have any ideas why this might be?
     
    remember, Aug 19, 2004 IP
  2. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    Don't ever refer to index.asp. If you refer to http://www.DoYouRemember.co.uk/ anywhere(internal or external), refer to it as such EVERYWHERE("/" in local links). According to Google, these are two different pages. You'll get more PR for "/", by linking everything to that instead of "index.asp".


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  3. remember

    remember Active Member

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    Thanks for the advice - I didn't know that. But that doesn't explain why my front page has a PR of 0. I mean, I know it's a relatively new site and everything but 0! Just seems to be something wrong with that...
     
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  4. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    I wouldn't worry about it.

    Google is often producing some strange glitches in terms of displayed PR. One guy last update made a post in another forum saying that his site that had been online for about a month (And had next to ho backlinks) was showing up as a PR8.

    This shouldn't harm your SERP's.
    It's just PR after all.
     
    SEbasic, Aug 19, 2004 IP
  5. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    You don't link back to yourself-- I couldn't find a single link to "/" on your site. Change the top link(the logo at the top) to link to "/" instead of "/index.asp". Also, I'd suggest adding a "Home" entry to your menu, also pointing to "/"-- you can set this up to use your preferred keyphrase instead of 'home' if you want to help your SEO standings. All your other pages are getting PR, because you're linking to them from each other-- these count as backlinks...


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    SEbasic Peon

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    That makes no difference dkalweit.

    He has linked to http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/index.asp and that should count.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...k:http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/&btnG=Search

    That google link: check shows that it should make no difference.

    Personally I do normally link to the .com/ but linking to an index page shouldn't really do much if any harm.

    I wouldn't worry about it remember.

    Out of interest, how long has it been like that? Since the last PR update or did it change since then?
     
    SEbasic, Aug 19, 2004 IP
  7. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't find any links to / or /index.asp with actual anchor text. Unless Google recently changed their algorithm to compensate, he's minimizing the benefits of people linking to "/", by him linking to "/index.asp" instead. I've helped people inrease their PR considerably by simply linking to "/" instead of their default or index pages...

    I don't trust Google's SERP's(link:, allinanchor:, etc.) as a complete mirror of the google algorithm-- I believe the algorithm does far more processing of these results to determine rankings, etc. that they don't show in these results.


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  8. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search/ukie?p=link:http://www.doyouremember.co.uk/&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt&y=i

    http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search/u...ouremember.co.uk/index.asp&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt&y=i

    You'll notice that Y! hasn't shown any of the links to index.asp

    There are a few links showing WITH PR if you perform a link: query on Y!

    PR makes no difference to SERP's anyway. I really wouldn't worry about it.

    The internal pages of the site are showing a PR3 anyway. After all, most of the traffic that you get will (Should) be to the internal pages of the site. So really, it doesn't matter about the PR of the index page - because PR makes no difference to SERP's.
     
    SEbasic, Aug 19, 2004 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #9
    I've seen the exact same happen on two of our .co.uk sites.. Frontpage PR0ed, most inner pages still some PR.

    No penalty reasons in my eyes so must by just Googledigob BS.
     
    T0PS3O, Aug 19, 2004 IP
  10. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    Are saying that to Google, http://www.mydomain.com is a different page than http://www.mydomain.com/ ?
     
    ResaleBroker, Aug 31, 2004 IP
  11. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    No. Google is intelligent enough to know that the only difference is the inclusion of exclusion of a "/". Some people say that Google understands the default/index pages now too, but personally I think it's still good practice not to refer to them by name, ever.


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    What about internal pages? Do you support the idea of no file extensions?
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    What do you mean?

    If you are refering to

    http://www.mydomain.com/folder/(index placed here)
    instead of
    http://www.mydomain.com/file.html

    Then to be honest, there have been so many discussions about this, that my advice is to find what works for you, then play around with it.
    SEO doesn't stay the same so things could change.
    Don't get too hung up about things like that.

    Personally though, I like to plan my sites into sections. for instance I might have:

    Articles
    Tools
    Forum

    So these sections would get different folders...
    http://www.mysite.com/articles/
    http://www.mysite.com/tools/
    http://www.mysite.com/forum/

    But I would still use

    http://www.mysite.com/services.html

    When you're just takling about one page.
     
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    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    SEbasic Peon

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    You would have to add extensions for the link to work. Otherwise you sre pointing it to a folder - not a file.
     
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