Pagerank and pixel sites

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Joobz, Jan 17, 2006.

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    Is there any way for pagerank to be passed through from a site linking to you via a banner or better yet a "million dollar homepage"? or is it just text linking that will pass PR? It would kind of make a pixel site worthless if it didn't.
     
    Joobz, Jan 17, 2006 IP
  2. l234244

    l234244 Peon

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    Links which are spiderable help pagerank, links wih specific anchor text helps rank for those specific keywords
     
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  3. wrmineo

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    Links, anchor text or not, will pass little, if any, value onto other sites when there are hundreds of outbound links like on these pixel pixies ...
     
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  4. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Banners can pass PR, but each page has the ability to pass approximately 85% of it's PR - and the PR is divided amongst each outgoing link.... i.e. a page with 1 outgoing link will pass 10X the PR as a page with 10 outgoing links. Matt's Cutts from google has stated that he hopes people aren't buying links on sites like the "million dollar homepage" thinking they will be passing PR. For all practical purposes, you won't get any PR help from buying a link on one of those "million dollar" types of sites. The only benefit from a link on one these types of sites would be any traffic the link generated - and I doubt this would be much from any of the many clones that have tried to recreate the success of the original.

    PR doesn't help your rankings unless the link comes from a site that is related to the sector or your site. Currently, text links give more benefit than banners as the anchor text helps you with ranking for that keyword phrase.
     
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  5. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #5
    that's not true

    that is true

    you can get 'some' PR from any spiderable link to your site (including image links), even a little bit from a full pixel site, just not much.
     
    Solicitors Mortgages, Jan 17, 2006 IP
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    I stand by my statement - PR from a non-related site will not help you in rankings. People buying high PR links are wasting their money if they think it is going to help them with their rankings. You can easily get 10,000 backlinks on a site using the co-op, but while it will help you with MSN and possibly Yahoo, it won't do anything for you with google.

    If you want to disagree about the pixel site passing PR, then you can argue with Matt Cutt's who help write the google algorithim because he's the one who said it. I would assume he knows what he's talking about.

    There are also may other pages that do not pass PR (no follow, fake PR using a redirect, javascript, etc). Even if a page does pass PR, it is only 85% divided among all links. So if a PR4 page had 1,000 outgoing links, you would need 1,176 such links to make your page a PR4. For all practical reasons, that link isn't doing you any good for PR.

    A comment made sometime ago by Shawn (digitalpoint) about buying high PR links from non-related sites was for people who like to waste their money (not an exact quote) was what originally prompted a controlled experiment. While I was able to get high PR on a site, it did absolutely nothing to increase rankings on a domain that was six years old.
     
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  7. Didoz

    Didoz Active Member

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    Indeed, you are right.
     
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  8. marketing

    marketing Active Member

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    I don't think it matters much if it is a image that links to your site or a text link, the link is there regardless which is what the spider finds. Of course having a text link is going to help with keywords...or if it is a domain title link, that will help in your backlinking and sites linked to stats.
     
    marketing, Jan 20, 2006 IP
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    i hope people won't think my site is harmful to other websites :(
     
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    IMO there's no reason to get a link from a pixel site. I doubt you'll get any benefit out of it. Main reason being there are just to many outgoing links on these types of sites. These sites are only link dumps which will eventually be devalued by search engines if not banned! :(
     
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    ... and, in addition, the only reason why the original was so successful was because of the publicity. There's no informational value to sites like that, and no reason why anyone would under normal circumstances want to go to one in the first place.
     
    FeedBucket, Jan 21, 2006 IP
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    marketing Active Member

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    yeah...these pixel sites are a great idea, but are probably going to find it difficult to be successful unless it is for charity or something that would get some positive publicity.
     
    marketing, Jan 21, 2006 IP
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    yes spiders don't see as texts only they also view tags so even a banner link will pass PR
     
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    IMO PR from any page doesn't help you in the ranking. It's a combination of well researched anchor text and a link from an on-topic site that helps you more than having a high PR page.
     
    MattUK, Jun 2, 2006 IP