First of all I wasnt arguing to anyone , I just wanted to say that just telling us that your site has a PR8 and its undeserved won't be helping anyone, as Labrocca wanted his site to be reviewed, so that somebody can find a reason why is it so. But, you surely laugh, as labrocca already mentioned that when you don't have anything else to say, you just laugh, just to move outta the sticky situation. Btw you said you have 2500 domains, are you a domain black marketeer or what? Because you are not using them for good purpose, your site serpalert and your blog are on the same domain, funny isnt it? Or is it another story whole together and goes something like this - You have 2500 domains, and you have created 2500 different usernames with the name of your domain in different forums and created 2500 different blogs for them as well. You must be filthy rich in that case and busy too. *sigh* I quit
Well I gotta believe Honey that he has a PR8. I am not sure why he can't just PM me the URL as well. I honestly don't see a reason for secrecy. Exposing my PR8 imho has not helped or harmed anyone. I know that some people like to keep their domains secret since it might make a lot of income and people are threatened but exposure of this (silly I think). Honey's comments on the PR8 you have SERP doesn't say it's abnormal that you have a PR8. However it's highly abnormal that I do. Can you tell us your Backlinks stats? How about daily traffic? It's not that I don't trust you have a PR8 but we are unable to analyze the site without the domain name. Maybe if you simply post some stats and Honey can confirm that may put the issue to rest. You also say the site went from PR6 to PR8. Now that's not my case where my site is 3 weeks old and went from PR0 to PR8. My case is extreme. Most agree this April 4th update affected new domains or sites. How old is your site that it was already a PR6?
Exactly, thats what my point is, I just asked for the url so I can check things like domain creation date, backlinks, onsite tags, and stuff like that, but he thinks I am a hacker or what? Being so rude with me, for no reason.
I have to agree, it's a combination of my decision and a nda, kinda. At the end of the day it's just not something I want in a public forum - sorry. It took some thinking about to send it to Honey, but although I've only known her a short while I do lots of business with her. She can be trusted. Getting back on topic... I think she's getting at that I haven't cheated a PR8 (which can be done, I dunno if you're aware of this or not?) I don't think it's deserved, this is a matter of opinion of course. PR is based soley on backlinks, so they say. It might be interesting to note I do not have ANY outgoing links from this domain. Here's the links: Google 6 backlinks. ALL FROM THE SAME DOMAIN. The domain linking to me is off topic. The 6 links are all PR2. Yahoo Linkdomain = 309 (including a lot of links from my own site!) Link: shows 0 links! MSN 8 links. 2 ontopic. PR0 PR2 PR0 PR0 PR0 PR0 PR0 PR0 That wouldn't help, the domain doesn't rank for anything worth noting, does that help? More interestingly is a subdomain. One that google shouldn't have found, I certainly haven't ever promoted or linked to it. Stats: Google 4 links, all from itself. Yahoo 2 links, only from itself. MSN 2 links, only from itself. ROTFL! Well here's the story behind the domain. It's roughly a year old, it was SPANKED with co-op weight (and lots, i mean lots and lots) about 8 months ago. The weight was on and off in probably a month. Since then nothing. I've NEVER seeked link partners or done anything with it. Work that out Needless to say, the pr8 is not deserved as you can see from above. Oh Mr Guru you really do crack me up. Sorry if you think I was rude. What exactly was it I said you thought was rude?
Forget it, Anyway you have given out half the data I wanted, Plz answer these too 1. How is this site ranking in SERPs for its main targetted keywords? 2. How long have you attained this PageRank, or did that change happen this April 4? 3. You drink tea or coffee? Thanks, NiTS
1. It doesn't, didn't and isn't (yet) intended to. Now it has PR8 i might abuse it. I might not. 2. April4th. 3. Coffee
Thanks SERP...very helpful post with your domains info. I really could care less what the domain was I just wanted it analyzed...maybe we can begin to see a pattern. My domain also has no outbound links on the PR8 page. I am throwing some LV at my site but only 1 link per day and it's in the correct category of politics. The sites my LV link is on are all political sites. My site is only about a month old now and G recognized it about 3 weeks ago. PageRank is suppose to be all based on backlinks..but now we have to wonder about that. Something has changed. I know in the past I am not aware of any freely given PR as we have experienced. A PR8 previously was a $50k+ website normally. On my site the SERP's have done well enough. I am usually on the front page for a variety of terms. Here is my top 50 from webalizer. Traffic currently is about 400 uniques a day but it was at 200 on April 3rd. Granted the site is so new it's hard to gauge growth that's natural and how much from SERPs.
That first one is so much exaggerated because you posted it on this forum and many people might have tried it So all in all, it seems as if google is rewarding non link exchangers, as you guys hardly have any valuable backlinks but very less or no outlinks. I think Google doesn't likes that the High PR domains are selling out links, infact thats what they are trying to prevent since long. Also that the pagerank might not matter anymore in SERPs. Right?
I talked to a guy from Google officially over the phone on a conference call with a client, around an year and a half back and he did mention "Consider Pagerank for Entertainment Purposes Only".
Aww... and i thought that high pagerank means that if I use 'SEO India' as anchor text for every link to my site then I'll beat your site only after my pagerank is greater than yours. Thanks for clearing it out. P.S. Dont worry I know my SEO knowledge sucks, I am just doing this for fun, no intention to make it a career.
Also if I am not mistaken the more outbound links on a page the less PR gets dispursed to each. Would it be possible that the algorithm has changed where the PR isn't passed on so it's kept at the page?
Well, I have seen PR0 sites rank higher then a PR6. So anything is possible. Regarding the SEO India, that site has not been touched in 2 years. Stale content, lots of mistakes here and there. Just ranks somehow. We don't even take up new SEO clients any more. But thanks for noticing.
This is all ver interesting I got an interesting email today from SEO news here is the 1st paragraph. Have you noticed anything different with Google lately? The Webmaster community certainly has, and if recent talk on several search engine optimization (SEO) forums is an indicator, Webmasters are very frustrated. For approximately two years Google has introduced a series of algorithm and filter changes that have led to unpredictable search engine results, and many clean (non-spam) websites have been dropped from the rankings. Google updates used to be monthly, and then quarterly. Now with so many servers, there seems to be several different search engine results rolling through the servers at any time during a quarter. Part of this is the recent Big Daddy update, which is a Google infrastructure update as much as an algorithm update. We believe Big Daddy is using a 64 bit architecture. Pages seem to go from a first page ranking to a spot on the 100th page, or worse yet to the Supplemental index. Google algorithm changes started in November 2003 with the Florida update, which now ranks as a legendary event in the Webmaster community. Then came updates named Austin, Brandy, Bourbon, and Jagger. Now we are dealing with the BigDaddy! interesting! Mark
I think you missed the important part of this mail, can you post the whole mail, as I am curious to know. I have been taught to respect my elders, so I won't argue with you. I just called u by that name coz of the age difference, anyway, you are too rude, so I wont talk to you .
Labrocca make the most of it sell some links! I thought it took google recognizing 62,000+ backlinks to get a pr8, like thefreesite.com (which also has a pr10 backlink) but now all we need is a few hundred backlinks mostly from forums Sweet!
How old are you ? This will solve all mysteries. When you get to know how old I am, you will understand.