Nehurd: Meaningless, LOL what about all those good links it takes to get the PR, are they meaningless now to. I go as far as to say PR doesn't matter, but I add it is the relevant links with our keywords in the anchor text, that bring the PR that matters, for it is those links that give us a higher search engine results position (SERP). Now links that are not relevant give the same PR but they don't give the same SERP. So yes, PR doesn't matter, relevant links with keywords in the anchor text from high reputation pages are what matters!
Yes i hope mine goes up too. I don't agree that pagerank is meaningless, it places your site higher on the search results.
philr: Most SEO experts seem to feel that Page Rank has been devalued as far as its direct value to product high SERP. With Google the main thing that products high SERP is numerous relevant keyword anchor text links from pages with high page reputation, not PR. If this is true then one might ask why do the sites that are on the first page SERP of a search term usually have high PR. Getting the numerous relevant links it takes to get first page SERP brings with it high PR. It is the numerous relevant links not the PR that get them the SERP. If you do a very searches you will see many times there are sites with low PR that are higher than sites with high PR in a search. For example if you search "oil change" which is found in the Google index 7.5 million times, in the first page SERP there are 2 PR0 even though in the first 100 results there are 8 - PR6's and 18 - PR5's. Those 2 PR0's beat out all those high PR sites. For example your site can get high PR from sites that are not relevant. So if you are marketing web design and you get 1 medium range PR 9 with 15 outbound links from a bingo site that will give your site a PR7 according to Wakfer's PageRank Calculation Chart [I revalued this link with 6.25(PRx/TOL) PRx]. This would be clearly considered a non-relevant link. So now you have a site page with a PR7 from this one link. Guess where it's going to rate -- no where. So it is not the PR that gives high SERP, but the links (if they are relevant) that brough the PR that give you high SERP. So does PR give you higher SERP, or is it relevant links that bring with it PR?
So much for predictions: September 7, 2004 -- looks like these guys were more on target: But the "quote of the thread" award goes to:
" But the "quote of the thread" award goes to: Quote: PR is meaningless.... I sure hope mine goes up. " I saw that and had a little laugh to myself, too. I don't know what the reason is for discussion about PR updates on a regular basis anyway- Google is obviously still keeping track of it, just not letting anyone see. I would just suggest people spend their time aquiring links, building content, and much less time worrying about a green graph that only about 5% of the people online even have a clue of its purpose/meaning. (and sometimes I think those 5% - myself included - know as little as the others.. lol)