whatever important or not important you may try the tool to have a investigation SERP/traffic and PR/SERPs relationship http://livepr.ezer.com/google_serps_pagerank_checker.asp?k=seo+forums an example for keywords [seo forums] Count PR PR0 PR1 PR2 PR3 PR4 PR5 PR6 PR7 PR8 PR9 PR10 Total Avg Top 10 Google SERPs 0 0 1 1 3 3 1 1 0 0 0 45/10 4.50 Count PR PR0 PR1 PR2 PR3 PR4 PR5 PR6 PR7 PR8 PR9 PR10 Total Avg Top 20 Google SERPs 2 0 1 6 5 4 1 1 0 0 0 73/20 3.65 Count PR PR0 PR1 PR2 PR3 PR4 PR5 PR6 PR7 PR8 PR9 PR10 Total Avg Top 30 Google SERPs 2 0 2 9 8 7 1 1 0 0 0 111/30 3.70 Count PR PR0 PR1 PR2 PR3 PR4 PR5 PR6 PR7 PR8 PR9 PR10 Total Avg Top 40 Google SERPs 4 0 3 11 11 7 2 2 0 0 0 144/40 3.60 may this helps you to have a better view
It's hard to follow that table you made. I take it you're saying that the average "SEO Forum" ranking has a PR of 3.6. That would be considered "low PR" even six months ago.
Well then congratulations if you can keep PR=0 and have high SERPs for those popular and high traffic keywords. Conditions like this, I would like to say that is awesome by keeping your whole site PR=0 for years. [ and You beat Google ]
Thing is, with a little keyword campaign you can gain yourself up in the results page, but that won't be for long and will get devaluated to other truly deserving PR 5 or 6 pages.
Regardless of what many of you want to believe, PR is still important in most cases. What is one of the most important aspects in getting high rankings... Links right? Usually the number and quality of the links pointing to your site is directly correlated to your site's PR. The more links you get, the more PR you get, the higher your ranking will usually become. Go look on many competitive markets at the top 10 search results. Usually you will find almost all the top 10 rankings have PR3 and up. I don't think that's a coincidence either.... I do believe that you can get high rankings without pr IF, you are targeting long-tail keywords with low competition. But if you look at sites in competitive markets that are ranking on the first page, you will notice that most of them are at least PR3 (at least in the markets I'm in)... Therefore, I don't think it's a coincidence that the higher PR sites also have better rankings low PR sites. Usually, sites with high PR have more google trust, and have more backlinks. And google trust and back links usually means good rankings... just my two cents
u r wrong if u ask me y? answer is tow site have same content one of them have pr7 another have pr0 and let say site which have pr7 have 100k page indexed on google and on same time site which have pr0 have 100k page indexed on google just i did that to see does page rank effect or not? and guess what? who have pr7 have more than 44k unique visitor per day who have pr0 have less than 1k unique visitor per day does this enough for people to stop say page rank not important? I hope that cheeeeeeeer
For me Pr is very important for you if you want to climb up to Top search results of Google serachs. If you have a high pr, your sites will be priority to be on Top.
THAT is ABSOLUTELY WRONG! I never sell or buy links... I never ever will do that ugly stuff ever..... But nonetheless... PR is one of the most important aspect for me... PR is for my personal satisfaction as a webmaster... you can say... "my report card in terms of Google". Traffic is the most important, but I believe, PR is not the only thing that drives traffic... if that was a case... new sites like mine for an example would never have risen up in the rankings first place. Content is King! It will always be the king... PR will be given to you automatically if you have good unique content... (cause more people will link to you always so that takes care of backlinks/anchor texts.... you will get dugg/SUed etc automatically... so that takes care of spreading the buzz around and word of mouth is always there).
Thanks for your comment . You said 99% of people will say pr is worthless . Well I own a link building firm and everyday i meet people who have the requirement of building backlinks to their site. Among them 1 to 2% of people go for links without caring for pr. And among them many are popular webmasters as well . So is it a mere coincidence that i never saw those 99% of people or you just gave a wrong information ? If pr is worthless then why 99% of people go for high pr links if they can afford it . Also SERP (we are talking about google only) is the main goal to achieve and pr is the part of that goal. You cant detach these two. Can you find one site with a competitive keyword in top rank which do not have any pr ? May be i am not 100% right but this is why we are debating also to learn more . So please don't tell that no more discussion . We are here to discuss what we know and to learn what others know. Looking forward to others comment. Regards. Ashwini
As far as most of us are concerned the main aim is to get noticed by the search engines so that searchers will hit on our key words and visit our sites. What PR does, (rightly or wrongly) is encourage advertisers to buy some sort of links on our sites because they view it that the higher the PR the more visitors therefore the greater chance some of those visitors will click their link. As important, if not more important, those who purchase links want high PR sites so that the search engines will pass `juice` from yours to theirs, and in turn that will build up their own PR. Personally I`d rather get my site seen on the top pages of the search engines, but, I can`t deny it does give me a certain feeling of satisfaction when I have good PR on my sites. The site I get most visitors to has a PR0, yet I also have some at PR1,PR2,PR3, and a blog at PR4, all getting fewer visitors than my PR0 site.
I'd like to point out that there are plenty of "link buyers" who aren't looking for PR. That is a fallacy created by people who don't have the confidence to sell marketing on their own websites without Google spoon-feeding them values. The fact that Google is punishing link sellers means link sellers now have lower PR. If your advertisers didn't drop off when the PR was lowered, it means they weren't buying the link for that reason. That officially makes Google full of shit, then, doesn't it?