Page Rank DEAD....!!!

Discussion in 'Google' started by robyries, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. #1
    Just quick question,

    what if page rank doesn't count any more, I mean google has deleted this kind of thing, so in the next time what would webmaster offer to their advertiser it their website good enough,.. :confused:(except google analytic, that kind of busy coz you need to contact the owner to requested valid data for their website)

    any idea,...

    thanks
     
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  2. xc06

    xc06 Notable Member

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    #2
    if really google abandon pagerank (I don' think so) , there will be some kind metric appear, like Mozrank I personally like.
     
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  3. arcadeorama

    arcadeorama Peon

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    #3
    A lot of people have a deathgrip on the pagerank idea. Change will be long in coming. I asked once about using mozrank instead of pagerank... no one thought too much of the idea.
     
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  4. Emma13th

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    #4
    I like mozrank as well ..
    But PR is directly related to Google so ..
     
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  5. dunnoicm

    dunnoicm Peon

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    I don't think that. If they would do that at least they should make an official declaration...
     
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    imkazu Peon

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    #6
    pr has been an overhyped metric for a long time, i'd think roi
     
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  7. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    It was being abused by some webmasters, guys linking their top sites to near empty pages.
    Guys selling empty page rank 3 domains for large lumps of cash.. Of Course you know as soon as it is sold they remove the backlinks and the buyer ends up with a worthless domain..

    If I was Mr. Google and saw some page rank 5 or 6 site linked to an empty page, I’d bust it down to the rank of the empty page “to 0“

    I hope this useless PR system is dead, and that it is replaced with a system that works..
     
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  8. Mightee

    Mightee Well-Known Member

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    PR is not dead!!!!!
    there was a minor update today which clearly shows that there will be a Major PR update soon
     
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  9. paidforumposters

    paidforumposters Peon

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    #9
    Incredible opinion satguy... and also as the question regarding a metric ... we have a valuable metric... Organic Traffic.

    Any site with decent organic traffic would be regarded as great.
    Now this does alarm the sites with repeating visitors and direct traffic. But that is the shortcoming of this system like any other system no system is perfect.
     
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    darkvisje Well-Known Member

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    Google wil tell us about it i suppose :) and its still in webmasters
     
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  11. lumpy

    lumpy Well-Known Member

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    Man, PageRank it's been dead for a while. How does a high PR helping you ? You don't get any better revenue, you don't get any better result in Google and you don't get anything good from it. Those who fight to improve a site's Page Rank just do useless work, since having a high PR won't help you with anything. Even Alexa rank is better than this, because it's based on traffic and not just an average number based on completely irrelevant sites linking to you.

    So if you want to follow my advice, stop caring about PR because it's been dead for long time. Don't buy random links from sites who have big PR, focus on a good link-building campaign from sites with content related to yours and sites which rank good in search engines at your keywords.

    If you don't want to consider my tips just stick to the PR hysteria and you'll end with no traffic and no cash.

    Thanks !
     
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  12. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    Oh god is there one person in this entire forum that actually understands the concept of PageRank? it was never supposed to give you any "better revenue", it just reflects the total strength of the page in the eyes of Google. Do you get that? the higher the PageRank the better PERIOD if you don't understand why then you don't understand what is PageRank and what it represents.

    P.S.
    You can have a PR0 that will be ranked in first place it doesn't mean your page doesn't have a PageRank, you ALWAYS have a PageRank.
     
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  13. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Look .. how can this PR system be any good,, If pop in to the auction pages here on DP.. You can see PR 3 domains up for auction.. And it will be just an empty page that has been parked somewhere with a few backlinks pointing to it...

    How can this be reflecting the total strength of the page in the eyes of Google, if this useless one page site has gained a PR of 1 or 2 or even 3..

    Give me Alexia anyday... The guys at google have laid this system to rest,, It's about time us webmasters did the same...
     
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    mintdesignnz Peon

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    PR is still alive.. and the minor updates are proof. it still is a metric used by Google for website's back linking quality.
     
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    -Aw- Active Member

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    Unless your site is new. Other than that, PageRank is indeed useless. Google has been relying on it less and less, and don't be surprised if a new algorithm is put in place.
     
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  16. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    Go complain to Google, I didn't code the ranking algorithm they are using.

    Alexa rank is calculated by browser traffic and has nothing to do with search engine rankings besides the fact that higher search engine rankings produce more traffic.
     
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    Yes, but proof of what? I know there's a lot of sites, mine included, that never budge during these supposed minor updates. What's the point in calling something an upgrade when it misses huge amounts of pages?
     
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  18. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    How can they rely less on PageRank if that's how they are ranking your website, you don't understand what PageRank is. Saying "PageRank is useless" is like saying Search Engine rankings are useless. Do you get that?
     
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  19. satguy

    satguy Well-Known Member

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    That's just it,,, They are not ranking sites, and may have just chipped in with a very small few minor updates, Just to keep it ticking over. While they tweek it's long awaited replacement..

    As for Search Engine Rankings.. It's easy to work out.. If you run a site that shows Funny Movies, and the term "Funny Movies" is posted on your site many times with relivaint content. When google bot crawls your site and sends all the data bact to HQ.. When all of that happens, then somebody types "Funny Movies" into google search,, your site will show up.. Page One if your content is good and lower pages if not..
     
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  20. -Aw-

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    Because Google is a very, very progressive company. They keep tinkering their algorithms to rat out things they don't like or people who try to take advantage of the "system." Hence, something like Footer Keywords/links and Meta Keywords have had less of an impact in SERPs (note, PageRank is not black-hat, these are examples on how Google tweaks its algorithms to devalue things). They put other things into consideration when giving someone search engine rankings, such as title tags, format, etc. (though Title tags too are beginning to lose its shine in importance). As stated previously, PR0 sites can easily outrank higher PageRank sites. I personally had a PR0 site (which never had an update, ever) which was easily able to outrank a well-established PR5 website because I knew how to play my cards at least to my advantage.

    In addition, even Google employees consistently state that PageRank is becoming less and less important. Hence, it was why it was removed from Webmaster Tools.

    Source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=6a1d6250e26e9e48&hl=en
     
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