Overture vs. WordTracker results...

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by starke, Oct 4, 2006.

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    I was just checking out Wordtracker in earnest today, and saw a huge discrepancy in results from the two above..

    Here's the WT report:
    The corresponding searches on Overture for August is:
    If I'm reading this right (cause I'm new to WT), 150 searches/day searched for: cheap flights new york new york

    While on Overture, only 389 people searched that phrase last month. Why would you guess that the numbers are so skewed.

    Also, I checked out another that was absolutely opposite... had 100K+ overture searches, but very few to none on WT. Any thoughts?

    Do you have any experience in this area?

    Thanks,
    Starke
     
    starke, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  2. brandon72

    brandon72 Peon

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    I have a a paid subscription to WordTracker, and I asked them that very same question. Here is their response:

    Posted on 05 Sep 2006 03:54 PM

    Hello

    The numbers at Overture have been extremely over-inflated by the number of different partners that they have.

    We have many keyword positions where the figures just don't match up at all. "Keywords" is a great example. If we were to look at Overture's stats, we should be receiving 600-1200 a day. We receive about 70-120 per day.

    Our conclusion is not only is the suggestion tool skewed by ranking software checking the positions within the engine, eg. WebPosition and hardcoded queries in places such as epilot, but also all the bid optimizers have appeared recently. They consistently check rankings inside the pay-per-click engines, artificially inflating the values and skewing the results. There are over 15 bid checkers now. You can imagine what these are doing to the results.

    This is why we will always use metacrawlers as the results will never be distorted in this way.

    Here are some other issues:

    Overture compresses the plural and singular version together. If you do this with our database you get:
    virus - 3701
    viruses - 1373

    Total - 5074

    Overture's data is for a period of 30 days, whereas ours is only for the one day. So, to get a comparable number:

    5074 x 30

    Total - 152,220

    Overture includes many of its channels such as Yahoo and Altavista as well as a few small engines and so represents much more than 10% of total searches.

    I have also included an article that details the differences between Overture and Wordtracker:

    http://www.wordtracker.com/articles/index.php/academy/demystifying_the_radically_different_keyword_results_provided_by_overture_a/

    Kind regards,

    Anne Curtis
    Customer Support Manager
     
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  3. starke

    starke Active Member

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    Thanks Brandon... I know what you mean, and I read the article in the past (it's good)... but the article left me with even more questions.

    This is the total searches last month on Overture for the term "keyword":
    58133 keyword

    According to the article, there would have actually been around 580 searches with about the 1/10 visitors = 58/month or about 1.9/day.

    Another thing with overture and WT. Some overture terms are searched at only triple & double digits /mo. For instance:

    536 keyword suggestion
    529 bid keyword
    511 keyword submission
    509 keyword search top
    505 analyzer density keyword
    497 keyword meta tag
    497 keyword style
    478 insert keyword
    463 billing keyword
    459 elite keyword

    Now I can see some strange ones being much less, but I can also see 500 searchs a month for the above words too.

    I understand that there may be some skewed results from Overture, but, don't necessarily agree with the WT article.
     
    starke, Oct 4, 2006 IP