Operation Iranian Freedom

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #381
    Good one Arnie. They should add this to the dictionary:

    Bush = Lack of leadership, lack of responsibility :D
     
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  2. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #382
    Sorry, but "lack of leadership" and "lack of responsibility" is the credit for the others.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #384
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  5. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #385
    Real quick question for those willing to respond who do you think should run or would you like to see run and vote for in 08 for president.
    I realise I probally should have started a new thread on this, but figured why start a new one as the people who usually respond to questions such as this will check out this thread ;)

    Myself, at the current moment would say Senator John McCain. I don't agree with many of his opinions, but think I could enough to support him, realy like watching him speak and give him a bump for his POW days and many statements said from such time.

    My main complaint for him is actually how he bowed down and supported GWB during the latest election, which I realise is politics as always supporting your sides guy.

    Anyone you feel would be better, or reason why McCain would not be a good choice?

    To the righty's in shock, yes I'd be supporting a republican ;)
     
    GRIM, Oct 14, 2005 IP
  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #386
    Well,
    after the "burning Bush" the world needs some "Rice"
     
    Arnie, Oct 14, 2005 IP
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #387
    Rice? That would almost automatically withdraw my support from supporting a republican, don't realy see her as being presidential material in the least ;) my .02
     
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  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #388
    I'm interrested in the side effects of having some "Rice"
     
    Arnie, Oct 14, 2005 IP
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    zman Peon

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    #389
    Rice for vice maybe but thats as far as my support would go.
     
    zman, Oct 14, 2005 IP
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    #390
    I might go with that, but nothing tells me she would be good for pres.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #391
    McCain wouldn't be an option for me, unless the choice was something miserable like Kerry or Hillary. I probably just wouldn't vote for the first time since my departure from the military.

    I'd definitely throw support for Rice. She has an impressive background, seems to be well received in the international community and clearly capable in my opinion.

    On the democrat side, I still and always have liked, Joe Lieberman. 'Twas a shame treason was the best quality the dems could come up with this time around. But given the level of which dems have stooped to the past five years, I'd have a hard time voting in the Dem party at all. There was a time.
     
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  12. latehorn

    latehorn Guest

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    #392
    Bush is just a republican doll
     
    latehorn, Oct 14, 2005 IP
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #393
    Wow support for Rice over McCain because of background? Just curious as I'd actually like to make an informed decision be it a little early but why not McCain? A bit to moderate or?

    Rice I see as a yes woman, I honestly could not support her :(
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #394
    Let's not start paraphrasing ;) Wasn't a support for Rice over McCain statement because of background. I just simply wouldn't vote for McCain unless the alternative was less miserable. Conservative on some fronts, liberal on others. If Kerry considered him less conservative enough to be a possible VP doesn't speak well.

    If I read correctly on the previous page, you've already made an informed decision?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Well wasn't paraphrasing thought it was pretty clear you'd support Rice over McCain :) Was just curious as to why.

    At this time yes I believe McCain would be my choice from any other prospects in the field, unless a new comer comes into it. Just because I feel I'm informed on the decision doesn't mean I can change my mind to another if someone makes a case as to why not one and why another is better ;)


    Exactly why I would support him, open minded and not closed to the conservative title or base.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #396
    Indeed, I would support Rice over McCain. If you had paraphrased it that way, I would not have taken issue. :)

    The reason you would choose him would probably sum up best why I would not.

    But I agree, it's way too early. Not sure who, if any, have actually declared their intention to run. When they do, I (like many others) will be looking at backgrounds, accomplishments, positions (and whether they change with the wind) and future plans to make informed decisions.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #397
    Not paraphrasing just trying to figure out your position. So is it wrong of me to assume that your idea of a great candidate would be one that holds the party line, is not open to ideas from others and is stead fast in all of the party beliefs of the republican party? If I'm incorrect here please correct me, just trying to figure it out.

    Yep I agree, I have read many posts of pokes at both Rice and Clinton so was just curious to what others thought would be a good candidate regaurdless if they run or not. Changing in the wind though, guess it depends do they change for popularity reasons, or do they change because they were proven wrong, or the other side made a case why their idea is better? Popularity I would not agree with, changing because you have an open mind and you've been convinced by your rivals I however can admire and support fully ;) I find it however to be a reason not to vote for someone who is proven wrong and either wont admit it, or will continue to fight claiming their statements were correct even if proven wrong. Not naming a politician in this case, simply that changing minds at times can be better than not, especially for our countries future.
     
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    Arnie
    Yes rice can be a good side dish j/k just don't think she's presidential material. Side effects? Honestly not even looking into that at the moment, I just honestly do not believe her to be presidential material, to much of a yes man/woman for me.

    Zman
    If I supported her running mate I may support her enough for that.

    Debunked
    Agreed
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #399
    McCain is a big-government guy. I am a small-government guy. I'm hoping I have a better choice in 2008.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #400
    Then how can you support GWB? I hear all these guys claiming they are small government yet support GWB, yet I see all these stats showing how GWB has grown the federal gov not decreased it. Or are all the stats I've read wrong, I'm willing to admit it if you've got something to dispute it.

    I don't agree with everything on McCain, there are lots of issues I actually don't like about him. Just overall what I see out there I would rather support McCain than any other name I've heard brought up. If the dems or repubs get a better candidate out there I'd be happy to change my mind.

    BTW I am against big government as well :)
     
    GRIM, Oct 14, 2005 IP