OpenAds + AdSense with javascript invocation - The offical Word

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by Pierce, May 15, 2007.

  1. #1
    I like openads because they do quite a nice job. However I was worried and many were worried that changing the code on the page to a javascript invocation would break the Terms of Service. Here is the communication between myself and google:

    Hello --snipped--,

    Thank you for your email. I reviewed the site you sent and according to this page, http://www.openads.org/news/google-adsense-click-tracking-integration.html
    , the software does not alter our AdSense code and therefore it does not violate our policies.

    However, we do not endorse or encourage the use of any particular click tracking tools. We recommend that you exercise caution when using third-party software to ensure that you do not violate the AdSense Terms and Conditions nor inadvertently disclose sensitive information about yourself or your site through the use of such software.

    In addition, it is solely your responsibility to verify that any tools or software used in conjunction with AdSense do not violate the AdSense Terms and Conditions and programme policies.

    For your reference, you can find tips and guidelines for keeping your account in good standing by visiting our Help Centre at https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=23921.

    Sincerely,

    Joe
    The Google AdSense Team


    -------------------------------

    Would you like to make more money from your AdSense account? Learn how to improve the performance of your Google ads at
    http://services.google.com/marketing/links/WW-ET-tips1 .

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    --snipped--

    Original Message Follows:
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    From: --snipped--
    Subject: AdSense Implementation
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:28:14 +0100

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I wish to enquire about the implementation of AdSense ads on this website:

    www.openads.org

    To view a page of which implements adsense/referals please visit:

    http://www.openads.org/revenue/

    You may have to refresh the page a few times to get an AdSense ad.

    I would like to use openads software to deliver AdSense ads on my website, but would like confirmation that this impementation of AdSense is okay and does not violate the Google Terms of Service.

    Regards,
    --snipped--

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    So, what do you think of that?

    Pierce
     
    Pierce, May 15, 2007 IP
  2. FanAddict

    FanAddict Notable Member

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    #2
    So, what does openads.org do? Turn the adsense code into java and hide it? I'm a bit confused...
     
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  3. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    #3
    its ad rotation software.

    Please visit http://www.openads.org/revenue/

    and view the source code. No google code to be found even though (if you rotate a few times) you get a google referal for AdSense on that page.

    Pierce
     
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    Ah so it still shows the full google when it rotates to that specific ad?
     
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  5. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    no it doesnt. it shows its own javascript the google code is no where to be found.

    It does re-write the code into the page using javascript so even though you cant see it in "view source" its still there.

    Pierce
     
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  6. stinker

    stinker Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Openads is great free ad rotation software. Respect! i'm using it for some time.
    In my opinion it can also help against adsence click bombers.
    If you set up to show ad once 24 hours, bomber has no way to attack you even if he open several tags
    and then try to bomb your ads. I know its not ideal way, but at least it covers your google acc. for sure.
    I think it good alternative to adlogger, which is not always helpful!
    You can exclude referrers pages, target ads by country, language, date, hour, source, operating system, browser,
    set up how many times to show to each IP and more for sure ;)
    More - it makes tidy your adspace. Targeting ads allow you to target to spcified country or continent,
    so you dont have unnesesary adwiews, and targeting ads just where you really need it.
     
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    toughguy Well-Known Member

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    Nice info stinker..

    Informative post..
    Do u recommend using openads??

    Thanks,
     
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    #8
    sure google will not care whether you edit openads code or not. what they care just dont edit their code.

    it's also cleared from google staff that you can use openads and google together at the same page but make sure these two ads look different from each other. (in case somebody will ask)
     
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  9. stinker

    stinker Well-Known Member

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    Im very happy if it was little helpful :)
    Im using openads, but haven't used it with google yet, just because my page still has some traffic from referrer pages. Everyone knows that Google don't like it. It is easy to exclude referrer by typing www.address, but still haven't figured out how to set up to exclude all referrers and leave only direct traffic for adsence. Me just asked in openads forum how (and if) its possible to do.
    So my problem a bit different.

    But im sure about setting up unique views (1 hour -24 hour, no matter), and other controls/settings of openads i mentioned.
    Still i think the best if possible to cover google with adlogger, and then put to openads code.
    Because one bug i noted in openads - when i quit browser ant restart it, this 24 hour unique ad shows once again.
    (maybe its not a bug but my poor knowledge of openads)
    But its impossible to open multiple ads for bombers with setted up unique view, that just not works ;)
    So could be the best to use adlogger + openads if possible.
    For sure openads is worth our attention.
     
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  10. brandnewx

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    #10
    Think twice if you consider a response from Adsense Team official word. In April, they said my account was in good standing, but a few days later it was disabled. Again after being reinstated, I asked them to check the clickbomb somebody generated on my account. They said it was fine and my account was still in good standing. One week later, I was banned again.

    The irony here: There is no such official word from Adsense Team. It's like they said and forgot. Somebody else in the same team came to inspect your account, BAM! You're found violating TOS, etc.
     
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  11. turbosatan

    turbosatan Well-Known Member

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    #11
    there are a lot of people at google just doing what they are told and that consists of

    loads of clicks = ban

    even though you have explained a lot in the past that it is not you doing it.

    google can be immensly difficult to work with but without them most of us would be working for a living
     
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  12. Pierce

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    #12
    do you even know what openads is?
     
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  13. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    #13
    ive gone through the adwords list of sites that are in the same category as me, and this is the top site:

    http://www.mystarmedia.net/

    doing 500,000+ impressions per day,

    and follow the google ads on this page: http://www.club977.com/

    they go to an iframe, which goes to a javascript, which goes to another iframe, which ends up here:


    http://adserv.mystarmedia.net

    which is in the same group again, saying it displays over 100k+ impressions per day.

    So.. google doesnt notice or doesnt care. And I would NEVER use an iframe as thats why its saying "adserv.mystarmedia.net".

    Pierce
     
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    #14
    I use openads on my site and I love it. I switch between Adsense and Adbrite ads so they each have a 50/50 chance of appearing in each ad slot. I also switch between 4 different Adsense Referral buttons and the Adbrite referral button as well, so technically each of those have a 20% chance of showing up. So far, everything has been going great, though I'm not sure how well AdBrite likes not being on the page all of the time. Adsense does fine though. :)
     
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    Can Openads be easily used to serve up your own ads for affiliate products?

    I need something like this instead of changing my website code every time I want to show a different product.
     
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  16. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    yeah you can do that, why dont you visit the site and see the screenshots and examples?

    Pierce
     
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    aimtowin Active Member

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    Just done that,downloaded the documentation, converted it to a pdf for offline reading and I will be trying it out on my local PC to get the hang of it before trying it on a live site. It's best not to mess with complicated things like this without thorough testing first.
     
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    I suggest you do local invocation instead. That is using php code to render adsense code into html page at server-side. I had explained previously that adsense support gives inconsistent responses. Even somebody there gives you green light, somebody else may think differently and ban you at together.
     
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    Maybe that kind of impressions pass premium publisher level?

     
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  20. Pierce

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    They were standard ads. So unsure if they are premium.

    Pierce
     
    Pierce, May 25, 2007 IP