One more brutal leader of an Islamic Nation kills thousands of their own people

This story of a deserter from the Syrian army to the ex soldiers that are battling the existing regime to protect the citizenry is one more example of the miserable governments that reign throughout the Middle East and wantonly kill the populations http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/w...yrian-defector.html?google_editors_picks=true

From the article:

the regime, interested only in its own survival and nothing less has possibly slaughtered 5,000 Syrians

The miserable regimes feed their people all sorts of garbage..but their singular focus is to maintain an iron clad grip on control of the nations....

Interesting...Israel has nothing to do with the miserable states of these nations...it takes one uprising after another to expose the myth about Israel being an enemy to the Arab people. Israel as an enemy is a myth created by corrupt violent killer Arabic rulers who use this excuse as a means to stay in power.

Basically the miserable Syrian despotic ruling regime is determined to slaughter those that are protesting....

The inhuman efforts the regime will go to to maintain its control are barbaric....

Syria is simply the latest example of the stunning Arab Spring as 10's of millions of citizens have revolted against the most miserable governments on the face of the earth.

 

The Assad family have ruled Syria for decades, there's nothing Islamic about them.



The real Islamist's are about to overthrow Assad don't you worry.

 

All a bit strange really. Syria has elections and Assad gets elected unopposed. Syria held municipal elections on Monday, portrayed by Assad's government as part of a process leading to a parliamentary election next year and constitutional reform. But critics say local elections have little meaning in a country where power is highly centralised.

Russia nails it "According to briefing notes seen by Reuters in New York, Pillay said that "independent, credible and corroborated accounts demonstrate that ... abuses have taken place as part of a widespread and systematic attack on civilians".

More than 14,000 people were reportedly in detention, at least 12,400 had sought refuge in neighboring countries and tens of thousands had been internally displaced, she said, also citing "alarming reports" of moves against the city of Homs.

Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said he too was troubled by Pillay's report, but said outside intervention could lead to civil war and a far higher death toll.

He repeated accusations that Western countries had gone into "regime-change mode", adding, "the tragedy is that if things were allowed to degenerate and to go in the direction of further provocation, of fanning further confrontation, then maybe (there would be) hundreds of thousands dead".

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/12/13/syria-idINDEE7BC00720111213

SO a few thousand people hold protests against their government, and in which country exactly is any government 100% popular. It's turns violent that's not good.

The Times article seems to neglect to mention that there are deaths on both sides and the article can't be corroborated. Is the Times article is part of a process that will lead people to believe that intervention is the only way and justify the tens of thousands of dead.

The protestors are mostly Sunnis and the President is from the Alawite sect. Guess it's about the majority Sunnis trying to gain power without forming a viable opposition party that contests elections.

Such is life.

 

Probably right.

This is interesting about the Alawites.

HISTORY AND LIFESTYLE:

-- Oppressed during the Ottoman period, Alawites have played down their distinctive beliefs in recent decades to argue they were mainline Shi'ites like in Iran. This is partly to satisfy the constitutional rule that the president must be a Muslim.

-- The outlawed Muslim Brotherhood called Alawites infidels for decades. Leaders of the Sunni movement no longer say this openly, but nobody knows whether the rank and file is convinced.

-- Isolated in the mountains near Syria's Mediterranean coast, Alawites taught that the Koran was to be read allegorically and preferred to pray at home rather than in mosques.

-- They were also highly secretive, initiating only a minority of believers into their core dogma, including reincarnation and a divine Trinity, and into rituals including a rite of drinking consecrated wine similar to a Christian Mass.

-- French colonial administrators tried to classify Syrian Alawism as a separate religion despite resistance from Alawi leaders who were more interested in identifying with Islam.

-- Like the nearby Druze, Alawites adopted the Shi'ite practice of taqiyya, or hiding their beliefs to avoid persecution. "Taqiyya makes a perfect qualification for membership in the mukhabarat, the ubiquitous intelligence/security apparatus that has dominated Syria's government for more than four decades," the British Islam expert Malise Ruthven wrote recently.

That's of course if this Syria thing is anything about religion or simply a power play.

 

Cool! Can we look forward to people getting slaughtered, 70 at a time, at local football match ups?

 

Embracing the horrors of death again? Linking it to religion is pretty sick.

May 1964: 318 people killed in riots during a Peru-Argentina match at the National Stadium in Lima
June 68: More than 70 people die in a gate stampede after a River Plate-Boca Juniors match in Buenos Aires
Jan 71: 66 people killed in a crush after a Rangers-Celtic derby in Glasgow, Scotland
Feb 74: 49 people trampled to death at a match in Cairo
Oct 82: More than 300 reportedly killed in a stampede on a narrow, icy staircase at a Spartak-Haarlem match in Moscow
May 85: 56 people die in a terrace fire during a Bradford City-Lincoln City match in Bradford, England
May 85: 39 people are killed when a separation wall collapses at a Liverpool-Juventus European Champions Cup final at Heysel Stadium in Brussels
March 88: 93 people die in a stampede after fleeing a hailstorm at the national stadium in Kathmandu, Nepal
Apr 89: 96 people are crushed to death at a Liverpool-Nottingham Forest cup match in Sheffield
Jan 91: At least 40 people die in a stampede after riots at a friendly match in Orkney, South Africa
Oct 96: About 80 people are killed in a stampede before a Guatemala-Costa Rica World Cup qualifying match in Guatemala City
Apr 01: More than 40 people killed in a crush at the overcrowded Ellis Park stadium in Johannesburg, South Africa

They'll have to do what the English do. Scan everyone before they enter a stadium, erect large fences around the grounds so the fans can't enter the field, have security placed at 10 metre intervals facing the crowd, fence off team's supporters from each other, never show replays because that might infuriate one side, have mounted police on every corner of the nearby neighbourhoods and police helicopters flying continuously overhead. At least that's what it was like at the Leeds - Sunderland game I went to a few years back. England - a truly civilised society.

 

Dude. I live in Egypt and I know more about the case than you do.That was a fight between club supporters, It was arranged already and there were people tweeting about it the day before it happened. During the chaos that happened, The police stayed pretty neutral just to avoid Human rights organizations saying "Look at how the police deals with the supporters just because they got into the ground". So either case, people will still blame the police. I'm not saying they took the correct decision though. Most people died in the crowed, Many died during the fight though as they were thrown out of the stadium by the other supporters.

And yes, Bashar El-Assad isn't an Islamist LOL... Anyway, I wish that butcher gets overthrown.

 

Sorry, my post was as off topic as Mikael's. I just felt the need to point out some of the "glory of the revolution". Obviously the police would not have stayed "neutral" under Mubarak. The job of the police is not to stay neutral. It is to keep the peace, and protect the public. 70 people dead at a well forecasted soccer fight, while the police stare on, should have human rights organizations looking at Egypt all right.

 

One of the reasons why this riot was all over the news is because its so rare. Congratulations though, you have succeeded to bring the western hooligan culture to Egypt.

 

Look at what is happening with anti- wall street movement and they haven´t even turned violent. What do you imagine the response of U.S government will be if some armed groups start protesting in the cities and start shooting at police and national guard?

 

Oh yes, we in the west made those people butcher each other! Right now, at this very moment, I am making you post nonsense!

 

Normal deal in the Islam world.

 

Oh my...after seeing you rely on this picture to ascertain if the ruling family of Syrian is Islamist or not, and with your proclamation that this family is not Islamist...and after seeing those videos of the rarest of Jews that reflect an incredible tiny minority of extremist fundamentalist ultra religious Jews that reject 99% of all Jews...its apparent that you are coming from the historically most dangerous aspect of religious ferver....the deeply fundamentalist whackos that invariably cause wars and outrage throughout history.

Danger!!! Danger!!!! It appears we have an extremist religious fascist in our midst that feasts on seeing massive numbers of people die because they don't follow the "book" down to its last dotted i and crossed t.

History has shown them to be the worst of all evil regardless of the sect.

 

If what you fear is Islamists, then you better not support the Syrian uprisings, the Egyptian, Yemeni, Tunisian, Libyan, or Jordanian. If you think that the new regimes will be anymore friendly to Israel, you are wrong, you are are about to witness the biggest anti-Israel movements you have seen in your lifetime.

 

It's ironic if you think about it.All the people in the countries you have mentioned are fighting for what Israeli's already have............freedom.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafez_al-Assad

I expect more from your earl. can you tell me how you decided that Assad family was Islamists?

 

Really? Do you know any other "regime" that is interested in something else?

 

So how do "rebel fighters armed with anti-tank missiles, thermobaric grenades, mortars and machine guns destroyed two BMB armoured cars and set ablaze a third, "killing all its crew"." match up with the Arab Spring scenario. Sounds more like a civil war to me.

So which side do the goodies pick to win - the Sunni protestors ? They might come in handy against Iran and sharia law would serve to keep the people, especially them damn women, under control as it does in Saudi Arabia. The Taliban also favour Sharia.

Or the existing regime that keeps the people under control by extreme means.

 

Now lets check a different propaganda:

Who is Syrian opposition? West has no idea

http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-foreign-intervention-321/

But that was after revolution, not before, right?

 

80% of those who died and injured in the match died in the crowd. They just ran away from the other team's supporters, many of them fell, others ran over them during the crowd. The rest died in fight. And yes, Egypt under Mubarak's rule was better. He wasn't that kind of "bad dictator" as media portrays him now. Also to be honest, there's not much that the police could do to stop this. When you have 4,000 people invading the pitch from all directions, what could the security forces do ? It was a surprise because they were actually the winning team. However, I believe that they should have taken more security actions before the match.