On-Site Problems Causing This?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by BOTSchool, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. #1
    Hello all,
    First a little background.
    On Oct. 5th the first incarnation of google's penguin hit the scene with a nuclear sized impact. My main site at that time was making about $15-$20 grand a month in revenue. It was near ground zero, unfortunately, and immediately lost 80%+ of its traffic. Due to health reasons I was unable to work for awhile so this site eventually just died as traffic continued to decline over time.

    At some point I decided to try moving some content from the nuked site to a "new" domain (aged about a year but no content or work ever done on it) and 301 redirected the moved pages to the new site. This worked to at least some degree for awhile but eventually, that site to dropped off the rankings.

    Fast forward to Nov. of last year. A little over two months ago. My health had improved anhd I was ready to get back to work. So I removed all connections between my original, penguin filtered site (no manual penalty has ever been received for either site) and the new site first. Then I got to work, 8-10 hour days every day pumping out new, high-quality original content and going after only high-quality backlink from relevant sites (very difficult in my small niche where ALL sites are monetized competitors who will never link to others in the niche).

    So I've been at this for almost 3 months now and at this point my backlink profile beats the living daylights out of all but the largest, highest quality authority sites in the niche. And I don't just mean quantity wise here. I mean qualitatively as well. The results? Practically none. Google does seem to love my home page, ranking it for the strangest things. But it sure hates everything else. Basically either the home page ranks, a /tag/ page ranks, or nothing at all. Google will NOT rank my inner pages which actually target the KW phrases. Heck sometimes even the backlinks I've built to the page outrank the page itself if they are high-quality backlinks.

    Here is a couple of examples of what kind of things are happening here.
    If I do a search for say:
    site:www(dot)mykillersite(dot)com keyword phrase
    In the rankings that show the inner page targeting that keyword phrase, www(dot)mykillersite(dot)com/keyword-phrase/
    doesn't even show up in the results much of the time unless you go through all the pages and then hit the "see more results like these" option. And even in the cases where the page does show up it is always outranked by a different page, or the home page etc.
    And this is when I use the "site:" function!

    I don't see what could possibly be causing something like this? The pages are indexed, and I've even messed around with "de-optimizing" them. Nothing seems to help.

    I know this is a long post with a lot to take in and with me asking for help which might be difficult to give but with my revenue stream destroyed I can't afford to hire a professional so communities like this are my only hope at the moment.

    I very much appreciate your time here, and definitely any help you might be able to give me with this would be appreciated. Thanks!
    Regards,
    Curtis
     
    BOTSchool, Jan 10, 2014 IP
  2. Stikky

    Stikky Peon

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    Curtis,

    This problem is very hard to diagnose. However, it sounds like you may have been manually but partially penalized, if you have webmaster tools you can look in there and see if there has been taken action against you. I would consider going through your back link profile and disavow certain back links that are not relevant and are low quality. I would also check your content for keyword density, if you've over optimized, you could be getting in trouble for that.

    Check to see if your robots.txt is done right, make sure your sitemap is accessible and has all links in it...

    This is just a few thoughts, plenty of other reasons why it could be low in the serps.
     
    Stikky, Jan 10, 2014 IP
  3. BoostSoftware

    BoostSoftware Active Member

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    I wanted to check out "My Killer Site," but it appears to be unavailable. Can you check on this? Otherwise, maybe I just typed in the wrong address. I'll check again...nope still DNS error. I'd give you a better opinion if I could see your site.
     
    BoostSoftware, Jan 10, 2014 IP
  4. BOTSchool

    BOTSchool Peon

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    Hi guys,
    Thank you very much for even taking the time to read this and respond. I do appreciate it.

    I should have mentioned in the OP that there has never been a manual penalty applied to either site. The first site was definitely penguin, not even the slightest doubt about that. I then apparently passed that algo "penalty" on to the newer site when I 301 redirected to it. That has long since been removed but I think google has a long memory there. I'm really thinking it is on-site issues at this point because my complete lack of coding or design skills makes that a weak area for me and it also seems to best explain the strange behavior I have seen.

    I suppose I could post my site I just generally avoid that due to fears of attack by competitor etc. (which has happened once).
    I will post both sites:
    binaryoptionsreviews(dot)biz ------------------> My original site which was hit by Penguin on Oct. 5 2012 when penguin was first implemented. I basically abandoned this site and 301 redirected to the other domain (that 301 has long since been removed though). Google webmaster tools still shows some 594 backlinks coming from this site to BOTSchool though. So finally I just sent a disavow file which included this domain. I just did that less than 2 weeks ago though.
    binaryoptionstradingschool(dot)net ------------> The domain I have been working on since Nov. I have had this domain for nearly as long as the original domain I just never did much with it until recently. I really think Panda is getting me here only because I don't see what else could be causing the problems I'm seeing.

    I still hang on to the original because it gets some bing and yahoo traffic, and a little bit of google. Among other reasons.
    Also, I am willing to pay for help it is just a matter of ability to pay. $100 a month would be about the max of my ability...pathetic considering where I once was haha. I also am hesitant to spend too much money on it because even though I know it is very much capable of converting traffic I'm worried that it just plain can't be fixed, by anyone for any amount of money.

    Thanks again to those who use their valuable time to read my posts and respond.
    Regards,
    Curtis
     
    BOTSchool, Jan 11, 2014 IP
  5. John Dave

    John Dave Active Member

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    Curtis, your site is inaccessible and i can't have a look at your site. I can't suggest unless i could have a look at your work.
     
    John Dave, Jan 12, 2014 IP