Okay, WTF is going on with CB?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by popedope, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. mill123

    mill123 Active Member

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    #41
    just amazes me how insular they are. no interaction between them and the outside world, no blog, no newsletter since october. not a single word from any human working there. you cant even get into their office to talk to anyone. its like they are a super elite cult that everyone wants in on but there is no way in.

    most other networks are constantly interacting with their users, be it with blogs or weekly updates, actual people on the phone when you call them, competitions etc. very strange. they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot.

    needs new management imo.
     
    mill123, Dec 11, 2008 IP
  2. shmitche

    shmitche Peon

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    #42
    I can't even buy products with a credit card when I want - I just gave up and only buy through paypal.
     
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  3. Patchkaa

    Patchkaa Peon

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    #43
    Sales are fine on my end, actually this month has been great!! I read a guy on this thread who had 50 hops are week are claimed that CB was ripping him off - You got to be kidding me???
     
    Patchkaa, Dec 11, 2008 IP
  4. dangregory

    dangregory Peon

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    #44
    Hmm. I'm both a publisher and an affiliate. As a publisher in the last thirty days I've had increased activity from affiliates sending me hops. I've had 1800 hops, most of them from affiliates because I don't do much to promote my own site. For those 1800 hops? I've had TWO sales.

    Usually I average about one sale per 100-120 hops at the very worst. September was a record month for that account and then by the end of October everything completely dried up even though I actually got MORE traffic and most of it was pretty nicely targetted due to affiliates marketing in their private newsletters and forums related to my product.

    As an affiliate same deal. September was a record month for me. Making sales off of many different websites, blogs, and traffic sources. Around the middle of October everything dried up although traffic on my sites and blogs remained the same. As an affiliate I've made ZERO sales since the middle of October, which sucks since usually I pull in decent numbers although I'm by no means a super affiliate at Clickbank.

    Now, I have several conduit style websites. THe ones that don't promote Clickbank products are doing great. The one that has Clickbank primarily as the stuff I sell has made ZERO sales during this time from middle of October on.

    Recently I switched out some of my CLickbank links to Paydot.com products that were similar to what I was promoting at Clickbank. Guess what? I made good sales through Paydot.com. Things behaved about normally - the way things USED to behave when I was sending Clickbank my traffic.

    Also, the publishing project I'm in doesn't involve a high risk, high fraud niche like making money online - it's a self-improvement type of niche that's very "clean." Usually no refunds or chargebacks on that product and it's been a nice seller for me since I started publishing it....that is, until October.

    Now I'm screwed. I'd like to get in touch with my affiliates and warn them about what is happening and maybe get us all to switch over to Paydot.com but wait, Clickbank doesnt' give you contact info on your affiliates. I know a few of them but not many and I have a lot of them. I might be able to track some of them down through their Clickbank id if they have uncloaked links floating out there....but still.

    Why does Clickbank have to make everything so damned hard?

    Dan
     
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  5. mill123

    mill123 Active Member

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    #45
    all very interesting. and extremely frustrating!
     
    mill123, Dec 11, 2008 IP
  6. web_dev

    web_dev Peon

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    #46
    I'm glad I didn't waste more time and money promoting BC products.

    Yes, I did find another network and making good money with them. Check my sig. and blog for earnings.
     
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  7. Leroy_H

    Leroy_H Peon

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    #47
    Maybe DP should team-up and come with their own aff network :p

    Leroy H.
     
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  8. Ideastone

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    #48
    Maybe people should try other networks.
     
    Ideastone, Dec 12, 2008 IP
  9. 100Bones

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    #49
    Ouch! That hurts.

    100Bones
     
    100Bones, Dec 12, 2008 IP
  10. zk5182

    zk5182 Active Member

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    #50
    CB has start to sink......
     
    zk5182, Dec 12, 2008 IP
  11. Zibblu

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    #51
    I'm considering trying paydotcom with my product - just as an A/B test. I could set up a separate landing page with paydotcom as the processor. Is that against the T&C of CB? I would still leave the home page with CB (for now anyway) as I don't want to rip off the CB affiliates sending me traffic.

    BTW my last 6 days as a CB affiliate: 941 hops, 1 sale. As a publisher I'm doing awful too: 681 hops with just 1 sale. And that doesn't even count the "direct" hops and I get quite a few of those (the one sale was actually a direct sale.)

    I'm really to point where I'm trying to ignore CB as an affiliate and work on other things. As a publisher I really want to explore other options, CB just isn't getting the job done. In the past I've experienced conversion ratios more in the 1 in 100 to 1 in 150 area so things have definitely got much worse. And I don't really buy the whole economic downturn thing as a reasoning. I'm doing just as well or even better in other (non-CB) endeavors.

    I'm also wondering if there are any other options to go for a vendor of a digital product other than PDC or CB that someone could recommend?
     
    Zibblu, Dec 12, 2008 IP
  12. evelinawilliams007

    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    #52
    It only depends on the quality of traffic you are sending on your banner/links. Your rate is pretty dissapointing I might say.
     
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  13. Mr. Mojorisin

    Mr. Mojorisin Peon

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    #53
    I heard that the new version of Mozilla does not allow cookies from Clickbank. Apparently it is on a "blocked" list.
     
    Mr. Mojorisin, Dec 13, 2008 IP
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    #54
    2,363 Hops - 1 Sale - $30.49

    I outrank the official site for the product i'm promoting for the actual products name, and numerous keywords related to it so the traffic is very targeted. Same story and numbers from other things i'm promoting, it's all way down.

    If i was sending those clicks to crummy old Adsense i would of banked a ton, time for a big change.
     
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  15. geomark

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    #55
    These numbers, at least the percentage of hops turning to sales, sound just like mine. Almost nothing since October. Checking Paydot.com now.
     
    geomark, Dec 13, 2008 IP
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    #56
    Yep I am checking out Paydotcom and others as well.
     
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  17. freelikehell

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    #57
    can i join the wtf club please?
    I have a great product running on cb, and its got an excellent 0:954 ratio for the past two days.
    And a 5:4560 ratio for the week. Yaay!
     
    freelikehell, Dec 13, 2008 IP
  18. Zibblu

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    #58
    I've signed up with Click2Sell.eu

    Does anyone have any experience with using it? I love the look of their site. The only thing I don't like about them so far is how they show the affiliate's NAME (not login name but actual name) at the checkout. I don't see how that's a good idea.
     
    Zibblu, Dec 13, 2008 IP
  19. DPParadise

    DPParadise Well-Known Member

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    #59
    Why Clickbank CEO still not in DP ?
     
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  20. nadavs

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    Zibblu - Click2Sell saw my product (driving test) and offered me to publish through them. They offered me one month without commissions and 30% lifetime discount for sales commissions. So far I'm happy, although I haven't made a single sale. At least affiliates are finding interest in my product and their marketplace is not so saturated.

    Another plus - they work with PayPal.

    Conclusion: give them a try. They have some interesting things out there.

    nadavs
     
    nadavs, Dec 13, 2008 IP