Offshore Servers

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by pngseo, May 2, 2008.

  1. #1
    If i buy a hosting from offshore host,is it legal to have warez
    Host say you can run anything and servers are highly anonymous

    If its not legal,will it be under my risk
     
    pngseo, May 2, 2008 IP
  2. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is not legal, of course you as the owner will be at risk. Whether or not you will be prosecuted depends on the offshore country you are in. But it is illegal and I strongly don't recommend it.
     
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  3. mori

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    Thare is always a risk but less risky then not hosting offshore.
     
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  4. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is not just the risk, it is not ethical and it is not legal. There are a lot of other ways to earn an honest living.
     
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    Yes its not the best way to do things indeed. No questioning that :)

    However, as for your question, legal stuff depends on the country you are hosting the site with. Most offshore hosting is fine with warez. You can pm everythinghost of Dp as he has a reliable fast offshore hosting company. Tell him I recommended you and he will take even good care of you. Cheers.
     
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    birdsfly Well-Known Member

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    Pfft, not ethical? Why are you imposing your moral standards on other? Just because you believe it's not a good thing to do, doesn't mean it's immoral.

    Anyway, isohunt.com and wtalk (I think) are located in countries where prosecution is rare/not happening so I recommend moving your servers to like Sweden or something. Anonymity is good.

    Look up where to host warez sites on google, might help.

    Good luck.
     
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  7. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    It is immoral and it is illegal. I am not imposing these rules, it is the laws in most countries.

     
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  8. pngseo

    pngseo Banned

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    #8
    thanks for ur replays

    WHY DON'T ANYBODY BAN THESE HOSTING COMPANIES

    What if only mobile warez are there and no other illegal stuffs like mp3's,software

    There is only one category mobile applications and only links are displayed for each software(files are stored elsewhere)

    Will it reduce the risk
     
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  9. godsofchaos

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    There is no risk in anything if you do host with a good host. As for example, the everythinghost guy in Dp who's really lenient on this as his server is located somewhere where he can be lenient :) Cheers.
     
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  10. mori

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    www.shinjiru.com supports it but dont forget offshore host are not the fastest host. Its allowed in those countries so the ria cant do a shit. And thats a good thing :).
     
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    check for servers located in holland, because of their laws, many of their hosting providers allow copyrighted files to be stored on their server
     
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  12. AmpedHosts

    AmpedHosts Active Member

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    I would just like to bring up a few things.

    Warez linking no matter what country you are in is always risky. Copyright material distribution weather its linking or storing; the 2 are affiliated greatly with each other. You can still go to court and hope that the judge favors your side but i'm sure that since the government is cracking down that he wont and you will be sued with copyright violation material and you will serve time in prison and / or possibly be charged A LOT of money from the person of the software or w/e you are illegal linking the download to.

    The reason people choose offshore hosts is simply because the government is not stabilized to punish or enforce proper AP laws or any law passed by their law makers. (Ex: Malaysia)

    I don't know about you but some of the other foreign countries have HORRIBLE courts (EX: turkey ) they'll treat you like a REAL prisoner if you are found guilty.

    Those are just a few things to think about when choosing your host. However there are thousands if not millions waerz site out there. The number is dramatically increasing and the intent to stop and crack down is also becoming larger. Now, if your just a small tiny warez site they wont pick on you. They're cracking down on larger sites with 100's of thousands of members involved
     
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    I got a vps for warez-linkage only :) and If you get too big they might go and hunt you down.. Warez-Linking is better then Warez-Hosting...
     
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    US gov can NOT take you to court or order a site shut down in a number or regions/areas int he world. It's up to you to find those countries
     
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    Not to turn this into a debate, but record companies are hardly the most moral of businesses, I don't care how much money they throw at politicians to get them to enforce ridiculous laws. When they're not bribing politicians or radio stations, they're installing trojan rootkits into CDs and hacking filesharing sites with denial of service attacks. Just because filesharing is illegal in your country, doesn't make it illegal around the world so get off your high horse.

    Back to topic. If the owner of one of these sites has it hosted in offshore - but still resides in a country where it's illegal, what happens?
     
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  16. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Companies spend money developing software, promoting singers, doing R & D in medicine etc. It is their rights to enjoy the fruits of their labors. They are granted copy rights according to The Vienna Convention. It is illegal around the world or nearly around the world especially if the country wants to join the WTO. There is no high horse or low horse, nor do I care about the money politicians got.

    It is the basic rights of a company to protect its intellectual assets. If no such rights existed or such rights are so easily infringed. Who would wonder to do research, to develop new software, to groom singers? Everyone will just be preparing a warez server for the latest release if there will be any....


     
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    R&D in Medicine? What the fuck.

    The bloke wants to host some torrents or some shit, not create a fake viagra sweat shop. Even if it's nearly illegal around the world, noone really gives a shit... case in point: China (that's 1 in 5 people around the world, at least).

    I'm not saying that record companies shouldn't extort the fucking heavens out of the poor saps who sign their contracts, and I'm definitely not saying that it's immoral for them to heavily overcharge for music, monopolise the markets and take a disproportionate cut, no.

    I'm saying that they aren't the most moral of businesses in that they've broken a hell of a lot more laws than the kids who they're suing for downloading a song, but they can bribe their way out of things and have expensive lawyers in shiny offices and bespoke suits. Moral of this story: check yourself before you wreck yourself.
     
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  18. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I have checked myself carefully. But would appreciate you hold back on those four letter words in a public forum.

    Even China is giving a fight against piracy as stipulated in the WTO. Whether they are moral or not is not for us to judge, but whether the copyrights are legally theirs and are infringed is something uncalled for and illegal.


     
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    When was the last time you went to China friend? I can assure you, the government does not take copyright seriously, no matter what the tell the Western governments. I'll say this, it's hard to find an author you like in China because there's so many published pirated books.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    If someone robs a bank and succeeded, does not mean you need to rob a bank right? So what if China is still a piracy heaven? It will be a matter of time for them to enforce piracy as they too wanted to protect their own intellectual rights.

    Sorry have not been to China for about a year, and not very interested in going to China.

     
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