Officialness of dmoz outside dmoz.org itself.

So you read the minds of other ODP editors on here and knew that they were bitching about this, yes, and you wrote the post for them.

So you are a mind reader after all. Hey join a circus they are always looking for mind readers.

 

No cannot join the circus no more, like i said i lost the powers

 

And now he got banned for the 5th time...

 

Gee.... couldn't of happened to a nicer guy.

 

I know.

but back to topic, i need some answers from the well educated dmoz editor class i suppose

 

I've been posting quite frequently here, and I haven't been given the boot yet, so, the answer is yes, we can post on outside forums, and no, dmoz does not control where we can post.

But, we do have to keep the confidentiality clause we agreed to when becoming editors.

What you're really asking is, can editors give site status reports on an outside forum.

In my own opinion, I don't think there is any harm in giving site status reports on your forum, any more than I think it helps the submitter to get one, but officially and technically, that is proprietary information that's not available to the general public, and shouldn't be shared unless it is agreed to by the meta community and administrators. (for that very reason, it's proprietary information)

The danger in participating on your forum is that an editor would be giving out that information (which might be harmless enough), but then, if an editor actually reviewed one of those sites in his natural activities as an editor, without realizing it, it could be misconstrued by both the meta community (who are responsible for security matters such as editor abuse) or a webmaster/site owner who hadn't been listed yet, as favoritism and editor abuse, which would be cause for an editor to be removed.

Good intentions don't matter because they can't be seen or proven, only the actions of an editor, which are seen in black and white, and can be proven, matter.

The Resource Zone stopped doing site status reports for several reasons, but the long and the short of it is that the Resource Zone is overseen by the meta community, and even though it is an outside forum (and not official), it is sanctioned by the meta community, administrators, and staff, a standing that your own forum doesn't have, .

If I were you, I would ask permission from the meta community and get some kind of agreement about editor participation over there, and then perhaps any editors who did want to participate, might feel a little more inclined to do so. But, I think it's something that needs some semi official sanctioning before it will work for you.

That's just my personal opinion, I have no say in the matter, and I don't speak for the ODP.

 

did you switch with gworld? he is banned now?

 

Woot no way, how and when did that happen ? Ivan did u have any hand behind it ?

 

Oh so if i made the zone entirely hidden, to select members and all requests made such that non-members or non-editors or ex-editors have no idea of such request made, would make it safer for dmoz editors as meta community will not be aware of such a request made ?

 

The answer I gave you is an honest one. If you have to hide what you're doing, then you probably shouldn't be doing it. My suggestion is to work with the system, and not finding ways to work around it by using deceit.

Any time you have to do something behind someones back, it isn't a good policy to do it, and I'm sure you wouldn't suggest that editors do anything that might even have the appearance of being editor abuse or favoritism. One wouldn't promote something that one has complained about in the past, that would be contradictory wouldn't it?.

 

According to ur suggestions, its like a suicide for dmoz editors to help out in the first place, than when i try to make it even more secure, its still a suicide, sheesh, where lies the solution, maybe make some meta an administrator on the forum maybe ?

 

The solution is as I said, be totally honest and open, state what you'd like to do, and ask the meta community for some guidance and the permission for editors to participate.

At one time, the Resource Zone did do site status reports and found that it wasn't accomplishing what they'd hoped it would. But, there's no reason I can see why another site couldn't spend their time doing it, if they wanted to devote themselves to it.

But, that is just my personal opinion, based on common sense as I see it, and I don't represent the editing community, the meta community, or the ODP. I'm merely a very minor editor among thousands.

 

Hmm i do not understand what was the motive behind Rz initially doing status reports ? Or more specific what it failed to accomplish ? And how to contact metas ? I wonder if evil motsa would be interested in providing some insight

We all know that !!

 

Thank you for again confirming that normal editors have zero rights when it comes to running so-called community.

Of course, you got banned five times already, who do you think did that? My power is beyond your comprehension mortal!

Good luck on that one, they remove you without bothering to hear your defense, even Saddam Hussein got to speak up before they hanged him.

 

Experience and knowledge guides the editing community, and all of those people started right at the same spot that every editor starts at, in a small category.

Every editor has the same equal opportunity to be whatever he/she wants to be or do in the Directory. Nothing holds you back but your own abilities, your own desires, and your willingness to work for it, and there are plenty of people who want to help you get there.

It's really one of the most equal opportunity places I've ever seen. No meta wants to see any editor stay where they are, they want and need editors with higher/wider editing permissions to help them in wide areas of the Directory.

I've personally got all the work I need right where I'm at, I sure as hell don't need any more, so I have no desire for higher permissions, none whatsoever.

 

We call them "editing privs" for a reason.

Aside from that I gotta admit I find it touching that you consider yourself "normal".

 

Oh no thats discrimination isn't it ?

Was it 5 or was it like 6 times ? Oh now i know who was behind it all..

Woot, are you saying motsa = Saddam Hussein

 

Somehow I doubt it that skrenta and few others started that way and I doubt you need tens of thousands of edits in early days to become meta.

Yep, like when I waited for weeks to get approved/rejected for new categories or days to get reply at the forum... nothing is holding you back besides your own laziness and laziness of metas.

Odd, when I showed initiative I got removed without any meta bothering to hear my side of the story... yep meta really care about normal editors - if they are gone who are they going to remove? They might even turn on each other!

Tell me about it, I can have four more topics at Skaffe but since entire Croatia category got dumped on me before I even asked now I have thousands of websites to add and no idea where to start, I've been building nice database of links which needs good descriptions but I got writers block so I'm wasting my time here until it passes.

Your mixing up editing privs with running a community, normal editors have only right to be removed without explanation which might come if they dare to question divine power of ruling elite.

At lest I don't go around making up false claims about what other people write.

Yes... muahahahahaha

No motsa is Keyser Söze! (run out of smilies, hopefully I won't be eliminated)

 

Are you reading from Third World Banter for Dummies?. We're just a directory, the political overtones are (as usual) just plain silly.

 

Rob, you crack me up, lol. I don't know where you get some of this stuff, but you got me laughin my butt off this morning, .