ODP and google directory

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by mgrohan, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. #1
    I have my site listed on DMOZ for over 6 months now.

    However it has still not been included in the google index (well kind of..).

    The strange thing is if i do a search on google dir for my url, it is shown and points to the right category (same as DMOZ listing), but the listing is not on the page??

    Any reason why this is? Anyway to fix it? I guess as it is now i am not really getting the benefit of the DMOZ listing.
     
    mgrohan, Jun 23, 2006 IP
  2. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    The Google Directory updates rarely, and at irregular intervals.

    It may never update again from the ODP database, since Google has begun to create its own Directory from the Google Co-Op.
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    As soon as this happens, we have to deal with the same DMOZ senior crowds who will abondon the ship and try to manipulate Google Co-Op instead. ;)
    But I think we have to wait about another 6 month to a year before this happens and Google has really fixed Co-Op to replace DMOZ.
     
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  4. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    Does that mean that you plan on leaving DMOZ for good? :)
     
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  5. Steve Myers

    Steve Myers Active Member

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    If any editors leave, I really hope it's the ones who know what they're doing and have a keen eye for quality and not just submit or leave them sitting there for 18 months :p

    P.S gboisseau, I really hope you do switch to Google Co-op, from looking at your rewards you deffinently should be considered into that position :) Nice work my friend!
     
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  6. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    Thanks for the vote of confidence. :)

    I really do not like the idea of Google Co-Op. From the outside, it looks to provide much more opportunity for abuse then the ODP. Just read what the SEO's are saying. They can finally get their PR up. Yippee!!!

    We really have a good bunch of editors (admins, metas, editalls, editors). Don't believe the distortions that are flamed in these forums. Most of the posters are just trolls that have nothing better to do then to use their many pseudo personatilites to insult someone. Maybe their mother caught them in the bathroom with a Playboy magazine when they were kids (like yesterday, since most act like they are under 10). They latch onto a topic - like these sick porn sites - and repeat themselves over, and over, and over, and over,,,,, I can't believe the crap that I have read in these forums. It actually has made my resolve stronger to stay with the ODP.

    I have no affiliations (other then my Lions Club website) and only edit because I really enjoy it. I can't be bought, I have never been offered a bribe, AND I do not wipe out submissions because I like to. My main focus in in http://dmoz.org/Business and list any site that is listable.

    The short of it is:
    1. Not all editors are corrupt - those caught are removed quickly (plus many other sanctions).
    2. Most of us edit because we enjoy editing.
    3. Forums, like these, are a distraction. They are filled with hateful people who, given a chance, would allow Hitler to be resurrected - yah, let's totally limit/destroy our Constitution rights.
    4. If you don't like what the ODP is doing, join us and help make a difference.
    5. Whining in these forums is a real sign of editor-envy.

    Enough said? Thanks again for the compliments. :)
     
    gboisseau, Jun 23, 2006 IP
  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    1. can you say "projection"?

    2. if you feel that way, why do you keep reading them?
     
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  8. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    Because, where else can you see into the minds of those who wish to control others? It is quite amusing to read the thread from posters (you know who you are) trying to tell us what to do, how to do it, and when to do it (but not actually getting off your lazy butts and helping. :D
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    The majority of editors are not "helping" anything - they are simply toeing the party line and contributing to the problem. I realize it is probably difficult for you to comprehend but there are several of us who believe that pressure from outside the inner sanctum is more effective than sycophancy from within.
     
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  10. helleborine

    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    While I have your attention, what's the best category for me to submit my new site, resurrect-hitler.org?

    Thank you.

    I am glad you don't. :p

    Below is a quote from a Blog:
    You'll find the link to the whole blog here.
     
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  11. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    The problem is: you are on the outside looking in. It would be the same as me making a psychiatric diagnosis. I am not qualified to make this determination because I don't have the training and I don't have the experience, as you do. In the same respect, you have never been an editor - you don't have the training and you don't have the experience to qualify you to pass judgement on the rest of us editors. You can sit on your high tower and toss insults at the rest of us who try to make a difference. At the end of the day, we are still going to be working on the directory, and you are still going to try to make us feel bad about doing what we enjoy. :eek:
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Exactly! Right on!! :D

    That IS the whole point. DMOZ editors are going to hate this. :)

    No. Not at all. The problem is that you are on the inside looking out. With huge blinders on.
     
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  13. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    What a total line of crap. First of all, we are going to let Google - the biggest pay for play company on the web determain who is a "trusted contributor"? It just looks like another marketing scheme cooked up from the Microsoft wannabes at Google. When are people going to get the idea that the directory is not for SEOs?
     
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  14. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Do you really believe that relying on the judgement of DMOZ editors is preferable? :rolleyes:

    I may not have blind faith in Google but I trust them a whole lot more than I trust the average DMOZ editor.
     
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  15. gboisseau

    gboisseau Peon

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    If it was a valid url, and if it was listable in the directory - I would have been more then happy to suggest a place for it. Because it is not - I can't help. :)

    <added>
    I didn't say I was going to hate it. It really does not impact what I do for the directory. It may actually make it easier to find better sources for quality sites. Chasing buses to get website addresses is really getting tough. </added>
     
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  16. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    Actually, no, that's not the problem (But that IS cute of you to say, really...haha).

    I used to be a shopping editor. So, since I have been an editor, I have the training and experiance to qualify me to pass judgement on DMOZ editors, right? Great! Well, I agree with a lot of what Minstrel has to say about DMOZ, so speaking of "high towers":

    You may want to step down.
     
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