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Occupy Wall St - We The 99% lead by Canadian Transvestite

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Obamanation, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. Blue Star Ent.

    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    #21

    It is a display of waking up, no more apathy, actually fighting for what you want. It also is an example of those not learning from history. It may happen on your side of the pond first, I remember London burning not too long ago. But.. I will stay on topic.
     
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    #22
    Ya right because London was burning because of the same reasons not because multiculturalism encouraged immigrants not to integrate but to remain separate like nazis .

    Also waking up to what ? They still don't see that they're poor because the US is loosing money and outsourcing jobs .
     
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    #23

    I would say waking up to the worse future they would have if they kept being silent... and inactive.
     
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    #24
    So instead of doing something useful that will save their future they decided to go on brainless mass again , after all everyone knows that after the great protests of the '60 the glorious '70s followed with a awesome economic crisis .

    The fact that they are voicing and acting is good , the fact that they're to stupid to see the real enemy is stupid .
     
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    #25
    Then help them.
     
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    #26
    I was just looking at twitter and this popped in :

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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #27
    AFGJ are the money handlers contracted by AdBusters. They didn't step in to fill the leadership role, they were part of it pretty much from the beginning. Here is an interview with Kalle Lasn, founder of adbusters and OccupyWallSt, from 3 weeks ago.



    Doesn't it just run a thrill up your leg listening to a disgruntled Canadian talking about how conflicts with the police help build support for the movement to effect a regime change in the US, outside of the political process? I just want to get out there and march march march.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #28
    @Obamanation - It looks like he's an anarchist. Check this out...

    Post #3 is especially interesting:

    http://www.anarchistblackcat.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=14735

    Here's an excerpt "... but we're also seeding anti-capitalist notions in the process. Making people see the different notions of property. Encouraging reclamation of buildings. The people who come are by and large receptive to those ideas, at the very least their essence if not the way the radical left would normally present them, and it allows us to orient people towards our views as they realize just how interwoven all these grievances are in the capitalist system. Some of us are extremely serious in trying to use this as a jumping point to spark serious things, especially as the situation in Greece gets out of the greek government's and european capital's control. One of our working groups, discussing tactical questions, has generally and openly been in favor of a diversity of tactics, which has been generally welcomed at assemblies, even if we're aware that non-violence can sometimes be more tactically preferable, especially as we build up forces...."

    And, here - he's 10 comments down...

    http://c4ss.org/content/8558

    "We are working on making the other shoe fall. Already we're trying to bring back general strike in American consciousnesses by showing other general strikes, by showing what the greeks are doing to fight back against their government and their corporate overlords, and especially the general strike."
     
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    #29
    guys, guys. Those are posts by radicals the clearly in the article and comments claim they are in minority but trying to push the movement to a radical side.

    That's not majority of #OWS people. Most of them just want an end to the extreme corruption going on between government and corporates. If anything you should join them and not let the radicals steal this chance to make our elected officials responsible again.
     
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  10. Blue Star Ent.

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    #30

    This is true. But so is the other. It is almost always the few that ruin it for the many.
     
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    #31
    All of the funders and the core group are. Lisa Fithian, Kalle Lasn. No doubt they were part of the crew behind the Seattle and Vancouver WTO riots.

    You read the interviews with Lasn, it becomes apparent that he was a big part of the protests in the 60s as well, which were largely promoted by the Communist Party. Thus the very rules on the forum strictly prohibiting any talk of the "Red Scare". Those facts all came out decades later as reporters did their investigating, Today, with the internet, that information is readily available to anyone with a computer, and yet still they march. Simply amazing.

    I especially liked your find on his call for a "General Strike". This is also an old tactic for agitators. OccupyWallSt organizers have been pushing the Oakland strike for over a week with "Official" post after official post, all featuring this photo:
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    Never mind the red scare. LMFAO.

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    Check out this photo of the vigil the crowd all carrying around Scott Olsen's photo, eerily similar to tactics used by Islamists to work people up in the middle east. Your kid gets killed in a car bombing, next thing you know, everyone is carrying around his photo screaming for blood and reprisals. As Lasn pointed out, it all works to the benefit of the movement, which is why you need as many people as possible creating as many borderline and stressful situations as possible without actually crossing over to violence, and just pray for a cop with itchy trigger finger. Nothing helps the movement like a Martyr.
     
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    #32
    Hmm let's see so they want to kill 300.000 and still yell that life is about the pursuit of happiness . ROFLMAO
     
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    #33
    Holy crap, Rebecca, you hit the jackpot with that AnarchistBlackCat post. Danae Martin may be fairly obscure online, but he is definitely near the epicenter of this movement! So another extremely intersting outtake from Agnosticnixie's posts on the Anarchy forum:



    Its a f'n play by play of how they put the thing together and where they are guiding it (The movement must appear to have no leaders, only passive custodians). So a quick look at the next major "custodian" of the movement.

    Funny. Looking at the big picture, you can see this article tries to promote Graeber to leader, when they are many leaders, but they definitely all sing to the same tune.
     
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    #34

    There is no need for more killing. 3000 innocents die per day in the United States. No... I am not changing the topic, but true nontheless.
     
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    #35
    Cool so it will take only 100 days (by your words) to exterminate the elite and let everyone else run like chickens with their heads cut off . Perfect ! You get a plane from Bogota and I'll take a plane from my city . We'll meet up in NY and forge a future based on candy and pink fluffy clouds .
     
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    #36

    No, with attitudes like that, there is no need to begin anything of the sort. Things would probably end up worse than they already are. How 'bout that avatar?

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    My picture is awesome thank you very much :eek:
     
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    #38
    Interesting interview. Actually, I didn't know who Graeber was. From the interview, apparently, he's an anarchist as well. I don't think this is going to end well.


    Just for a bit of comedy,

    South Park has an episode about the protests. It's supposed to be playing today. I haven't seen the entire episode, but here's the preview. :)
     
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    #39
    Ooops, too late to edit my post. I wanted to add something. Unless they censor or delete this thread as well, it's an interesting read:Why are the Anarchist and Communist logos flying over OWS? Agnosticnixie even comments in this thread (to defend anarchy). It's becoming clearer the end goal for OWS is not just to fix a few problems in our political system, but replace our system with something else.
     
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    #40
    I was around during the Vietnam war. My perspective on the situation changed over time. 40 years ago the Right Wing vilified individuals and the most radical people who represented those against the war in Vietnam painting them as Radical dangerous Communists and worse.

    There never was a single leader of those against the War in Vietnam, nor were the main body of people who opposed the war radical or dangerous. At some point in time, as American deaths mounted and mounted, the mainstream of America turned against the war. Simply the majority of mothers and fathers of draft eligible 18-21 males turned against the war.

    It took time. During that period over 50,000 American Patriots died in Vietnam. It took time for the mainstream to get sick of sacrifice. Radicals, communists, etc had nothing to do with how the population changed. Radicals and communists were never the singular leaders or individual boogie men that represented the population.

    Its the same now. The Occupy Wall Stream Movement is not led by a single ugly individual or group of conspiratorial anti American devils. In fact more pro American Patriots are adding their voices as time marches on.

    The 1/2 or 1% of Americans who are the most patriotic--Veterans--are joining the Occupy Wall Street Movement

    Veterans are joining the Occupy Wall Street Movement. They are the epitome of American Patriots. They have been returning from active duty and are finding increasing levels of unemployment higher than the national average. For 18-24 year olds who are vets their unemployment rate is 20% versus 9% for the overall population.

    Looks to me like Corporate America is screwing them over. Here is what one vet did:

    The American Patriots who actually physically defend America and take an oath to defend the US Constitution are in support of the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

    Its criminal when the Right Wing verbally abuses these patriots and lumps them with the scum of the Earth. That is the Right Wing putting forth an entirely false impression of what is really occurring.

    Here is why the Occupy Wall Street Movement is gaining momentum:

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    The majority of the population of the country is getting the shaft and a few corporations are sucking up the profits!!!

    Here is more that the Veterans...the Patriotic 1% articulated:

     
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