Obamacare requires being microchipped

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  1. Jeccles

    Jeccles Peon

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    #21
    Uh oh....if we start implanting microchips into people (for whatever reason), how are we going to tell them apart from alien abductees? :confused:
     
    Jeccles, Mar 24, 2010 IP
  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #22
    The alien abductees are all sporting Ron Paul buttons. :p
     
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    eric8476 Active Member

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    #23
    its like alex jones bitching about the carbon tax. will we be taxed for being a carbon life form?
     
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  4. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #24
    The chip has been around for quite some time and is being used.
    [video=youtube;UDhDrFrs7as]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhDrFrs7as&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    The question is now if more and more people will be drawn into the public option, how much power will this give the legislation.

    It's a valid question whether or not we are going to see a development towards using this chip under the pretense of efficiency.

    To those who trust you government: Don't worry about it, all is good.

    To those who don't, I can see plenty of reasons not to either.
     
    Blogmaster, Mar 30, 2010 IP
  5. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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  6. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #27
    I heard that John Travolta was also at that meeting :)
     
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  8. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #28
    I think with technology, it's really not that far-fetched to think micro chips in humans could become common, possibly even required in the future. I think you're kind of taking a leap though from the fact that there is a private company that makes chips for humans...they were approved by FDA...health care legislation says "national medical device registry"...mandatory micro chipping in 36 months.

    Here's the text of the bill that I think your basing that on: SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY

    This is on OpenCongress,
    This is the FDA definitions of class I, class II, and class III:
    So, there will be a National registry to track things like breast implants, pacemakers, and so forth.
     
    Rebecca, Apr 4, 2010 IP
  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #29
    I believe that database already exists. I recall reading a few cases where a body was identified by serial numbers in breast implants. I suspect that means any type of implantable DME has been imprinted with a serial number and registered in a database (unless you got your tits done in Brazil, or some other medical tourism destination). I'm hard pressed to see how any of that is an invasion of our privacy.

    RFID tags have been around a long time, and have been used as implantable devices on pets for quite a while. Some parents have considered RFID tagging their children, though I'm not sure anyone is actually doing it. If they tried to force implant RFID tags for everyone, I suspect you'd see a revolt. The new Bluetooth LE spec can run a truly networked chip(100ft range) on a watch battery for a very very very long time(years). I wouldn't be too surprised to see DME such as pacemakers providing telemetry data via such a chip in the not too distant future, and the recipients will probably pay extra just to have it. Suckers.
     
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  10. Blogmaster

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    #30
    At 8:40 in Biden promises that a vote will come within the time congress members are currently serving when they have to decide on whether or not they will make it mandatory:

    [video=youtube;_9P15YZrnv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0[/video]
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 4, 2010 IP
  11. Rebecca

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    #31
    Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right. A few months ago, there was that story all over the news about the woman that had been murdered. The man that killed her tried to ensure her body would never be identified by taking her jaw or teeth out. She was quickly identified with her breast implants, so it does seem they must already have a National database. If you read the "SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY" text, do you think it just authorizes adding additional class III devices, and class II devices?

    I've considered getting one for my dog, but I don't know, there are people that believe the microchips may cause cancer. The Washington Post has a really interesting article about this, with emphasis on VeriChip.

    Thanks Blogmaster. I wish I could hear that video, my speakers aren't working. After searching, I found this Biden quote. Is this the quote you're concerned by? "Can a miniature tag be implanted into a human body to track his every movement? You will rule on that, mark my words, before your tenure is over."
     
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  12. Blogmaster

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    #32
    Yes, Rebecca. That's the one!
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 5, 2010 IP
  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #33
    I find it unlikely you can get cancer from an RFID tag. Maybe if it was constantly emitting, but it only powers up and emits when hit with a specific frequency(every time you walk through the grocery store security system? LOL)

    First the technology is not currently a tracking technology. Second, there is a big difference between saying the law would allow this to be done and saying we will be doing this to everyone. I wouldn't mind if Parolees and child molesters had such tags. If you are really paranoid(and god knows it appears you are), you should be aware that video face and body recognition is getting good enough to pick you out of a crowd of people with a surveillance camera and identify you with some degree of certainty. We now have a camera covering most public places in major metropolitan areas.
     
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  14. Blogmaster

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    #34
    If a Vice President states
    "Can a miniature tag be implanted into a human body to track his every movement? You will rule on that, mark my words, before your tenure is over."

    then I don't consider it paranoid to pay attention to it. Of course, this is a matter of how you view your government as a whole, how much faith you want to put into those who govern over you and also it's a question of where you believe we are headed.

    Whatever this is being marketed as, a data storage device, I prefer to look at where the companies developing these gadgets are moving and it's already in the works that your credit history will be stored in them as well.

    So my concern is how much of our privacies and powers over ourselves we have to surrender and who will be in charge.

    I'm not satisfied with the notion that someone up there is going to use this power wisely.

    So yes, everything that has come out in the past few days and even before is a major concern to me and regardless of how "out there" it may sound to some, the fact that there is so little transparency combined with the surprise effect each time a little more gets revealed, I do believe it's something everyone in the country should pay attention to in order to stay informed and be able to make an educated decision when the time comes to determine just what the consequences in congress voting in yet another healthcare requirement could end up being.


    [video=youtube;2T4P9cEufrU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T4P9cEufrU&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    The main reason people are not paying attention is that media personalities they trust are telling them it's ok. Even thought they are blatantly lying, it shapes the perception.
     
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    Blogmaster, Apr 5, 2010 IP
  15. eric8476

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    #35
    it's the mark of the beast, 666, mmmmwwwwhhaahhhhaaahhhhaaaa
     
    eric8476, Apr 5, 2010 IP
  16. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #36
    LoL. Aren't vice president's great? We had another vice president recently who invented the internet. Read up on the technology and you will understand why it cant currently be done. Maybe in 10 years. but don't forget, RFID has been around a long time. So many things to worry about, doesn't it make better sense to worry about clear and present danger, like a multi trillion dollar deficit?

    I would worry about private enterprise, and Google in particular, more than the government. You think an investigation agency can't determine if you've ever typed in "testicular cancer" into that Google search text box when you apply for health insurance? As it is, the government farms a lot of its data aggregation out to private enterprise, because it would be illegal of the government did what private enterprise is already doing. There are very legitimate reasons to be paranoid, in my opinion. This just isn't one of them, and it is highly unlikely that 9/11 is either.
     
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    #37
    Being implanted with a microchip is a dangerous procedure, that can lead to use for many other devious reasons.

    This should not be done in a free society and that is my opinion
     
    miamiron, Apr 6, 2010 IP
  18. TecSupport

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    #38
    Obama won't be in office much longer, and reed will be gone along with many of those croupt washington law makers. , its all bad but will be getting better before 2012 hits.
     
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    #39
    Let's just say that I'm not as convinced that they are completely safe and harmless.

    You changed my post from this...

    To this...

    Then responded with this...

    I'm a little confused by your response. The only thing I said that could remotely be considered as paranoid was, "I've considered getting one for my dog, but I don't know, there are people that believe the microchips may cause cancer." In regards to the last part of your comment -- Yes, I'm aware, as most people are, that there are cameras at many intersections and public places.

    p.s. Karl Rove just followed me on Twitter, and I wasn't even following him. :)

    (I feel so special, lol)
     
    Rebecca, Apr 13, 2010 IP
  20. Obamanation

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    #40
    Ooops. LoL. I was responding to Blogmasters post directly above mine, but I used the quote from your post (with your name) because you are the one who put Biden's quote to print(even though BLogmaster was the one who originally referenced it). Sorry if you thought the paranoia barb was directed at you. I should probably leave the barbs out altogether, but I can only take so many links from the worldsprophecy websites before I wonder if the person opposite me is wearing a tinfoil hat.... literally.


    Karl is following everyone, most just don't realize it (now who is paranoid). Seriously though, I didn't know you ran a political feed on twitter. If Karl is seriously following it I'd say that's pretty impressive. Should I look for the talking points you supply him on Fox?
     
    Obamanation, Apr 13, 2010 IP