OBAMA Visit to INDIA.....What do you think?

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #21
    I'd say you have a few too many steps in your list. Step 1 and 5 are exactly the same thing. You also left out the use of Credit Default Swaps as an insurance product without collateral, which is ultimately what threatened to destroy the entire economy.

    When the market value of every last piece of real estate in America drops by 50%, somebody is going to take a loss. Its just a question of whether it is the buyers, the banks, or the taxpayers. I know this much. It wasn't the real estate agents or the mortgage brokers. They got paid up front.
     
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  2. Ojasvi Bhargava

    Ojasvi Bhargava Peon

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    #22
    he did nothing about china being fighting and taking up a part of Kashmir.
    and also Pakistan's fight of Kashmir since independence.
     
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  3. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #23
    The financial crisis is just part of the problem . What the banks did was trow a big fat stone in the cash flow . But until now the volatility of the market should have long dissolved this problem . But after two years the problem is till there . The financial crisis was just a symptom of the disease the underline condition is still there . Some half-wits are pushing forward to a globalisation of the national economies forgetting some basic principles . Obama threw almost a trillion dollars in the economy and after two long grueling years the results are still nowhere to be seen .
     
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  4. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #24
    Nowhere?

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    I'm not going debate more if yo don't do your research. You have access to the internet, use it.
     
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  5. ApocalypseXL

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    #25
    Ya , nowhere .

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  6. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #26
    I'm glad you posted that image, Good to see you doing some research. Now time for analysis. Immediately after Obama put his policies into place an unemployment rate increasing at an increasing rate was reined in and even reduced to an extent. Quite an achievement I'd say. Does it look like nowhere to you?

    Though I find it funny that you decide to use only a single economic variable which supposedly supports your POV and then say "nowhere". I showed to one place where you see the effect of Stimulus, and you showed us the second. I guess its settled now :)
     
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  7. ApocalypseXL

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    #27
    Well given the fact that his policies are a red hot subject of debate even among economists I guess we can argue for ever . And I always do my research :p
     
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  8. rexertea

    rexertea Well-Known Member

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    #28
    This visit by Obama has not been just good for America but for India as well. Obama has gone with a deal that would create at least 50,000 jobs in US. From trade and UN security council permanent seat perspective, India stands to gain.
     
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  9. projecticeman

    projecticeman Peon

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    #29
    Every Americans, Indians and many other knows is it well, that barack Obama is on visit To India..
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #30
    What do I think about it? I think we could have used that 200 Million a day here at home!
     
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  11. Helvetii

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    #31
    Cost of Clinton visit in 1990's: 32 billion ruppes
    Cost of Bush's visit: 29 billion ruppes
    Cost of Obama's visit: 28 billion ruppes

    Now adjust those figures for inflation and length of stay.

    Mia you partisian thinking is killing your credibility and your ability of think independently.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #32
    Do you ever site any Sources?

    According to a 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office (Government Accountability Office.) The GAO said that Clinton’s trips to Africa, Chile and China in 1998 cost at least $42.8 million, $10.5 million and $18.8 million, respectively — not counting the still-classified cost of providing Secret Service protection.

    I find nothing the GAO to support your above claims for either BC or GWB respectively.

    While I will agree that $200 million seems a bit on the extreme, its not inconceivable. The White House did deny these figures when asked by the press, but they ever did say what the correct figures where.

    Also, Obama took 3000+ of his peeps and put them up in nearly 900 rooms. Aside from the obvious gross carbon footprint transporting these people around caused, its a far cry from the 600-1300 max that Clinton took when he traveled abroad.

    And btw, that was a visit to 6 countries in 12 days. In other words, Clinton's trip in 98 cost $3.6 million per day.

    Adjusted for inflation or not, something's way off with regards to the relative costs for a 5 day visit to ONE country. Again, this can all be found at the GAO. I'm sure several years later we'll find out the true costs for Obama as well. While it may not be $200 million/day, I'm fairly confident its probably pretty darned close to that number. If it was not, why doesn't the White House tell us what it is?


    Helveti, I am not a one sided thinker. I'm looking at both sides at all times and carefully reviewing facts. That said, your willingness to accept an alternate reality of history is killing your ability to think period!
     
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  13. cyber-world

    cyber-world Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Mia, May be that 200 Million a day was true because, For Obama security there has been thousands of Security and policeman, so i think may be expenses for his security. But where as for the trip of 19's when clinton has visited doesnt required much security as far as the current situation in india much terrorism and all for that there has been alot of secret groups/agents from armed force as well as navy forces has been formed for the security purpose. So those 200 Million is not only limited to his staying, dinning and flying, It does included the high Security from throught the Country india.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #34
    The expense was no doubt in the movement of 12% of the US's Naval Fleet. That, according to ABC news and the White House press secretary. Couple that with the extravagant tastes these two carpet baggers have; along with their entourage and you get some pretty substantial costs.

    I'm not denying it costs money to protect the president. I'm just questioning whether the trip was worth the expense?
     
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  15. sar420

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    #35
    O could have done with some austerity, like staying in a cheaper hotel along with his staff, but then he's the head of the most powerful country in the world; wouldn't have suited the image really. Getting a naval fleet was interesting, especially since he came to Mumbai and terrorists have shown a willingness to attack via the sea route.
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #36
    Even Oblahma is admitting his Asian junket was a disappointment.

    But hey, we have to cut him a little slack, this is his first job with any real degree of responsibility.
     
    Will.Spencer, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  17. ApocalypseXL

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    #37
    OK that was funny , his 1st job where he has to be responsible . LoL
     
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