Obama the "first black president" is actually not black?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bogart, Dec 13, 2008.

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Is Obama the "first black president"?

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  2. No

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  3. Not sure

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  1. earthfaze

    earthfaze Peon

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    I haven't read it yet, Icke is a nuts nut in my opinion. I think he ate too much LSD at some point and tripped into some astral zone he hasn't quite come back from. That said I did scroll over the pictures and it had me laughing out loud. I'm not saying Icke is full of total crap either, I just think he mixes truth and fantasy and it has made him a lot of money. I like Obama so far, but I noticed the Hope Change mantra early on myself. Dynamic Optimism is a good brand name. Mantras, hand gestures, presentation, key words, these are as much good speaking as they are mass hypnosis techniques :D The difference is what he does in the next 4 years really, so Icke and everyone else will just have to wait and see.
     
    earthfaze, Dec 20, 2008 IP
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    Huh? Oh wait yeah... I get it :rolleyes:
     
    GeorgeB., Dec 21, 2008 IP
  3. bogart

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    #43
    I don't buy into the mass hypnosis. But Obama was real vague like Jimmy Carter. Carter ran his 1976 campaign on the "A Leader, For a Change" slogan and the result was 18% inflation. some good reading is Jimmy Carter vs. Inflation from Time - Monday, Mar. 24, 1980.
     
    bogart, Dec 22, 2008 IP
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    winsoar Well-Known Member

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    #44
    I wonder which of those pictures are real and which have been edited in the David Icke link. Did they really have black signs with the words "BELIEVE" or "CHANGE" on them?

    Is it really true that Obama was associated with terrorists? That's the most shocking allegation of all for me.
     
    winsoar, Dec 22, 2008 IP
  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #45
    Sure it's true that Obama is associated with William Ayers - a Weather Underground founder - and has associaions with the Nation of Islam. However, there is a trendy left wing bias among the top universities and community groups. It's more than likely Obama will dis-associate himself from the hardcore left.

    On the other hand, "BELIEVE" and "CHANGE" are right out of Jimmy Carter's playbook. The dems have controlled Congress since 2006 and many of Obama's adminisration are right out of the Senate like Hillary Clinton and Biden. So it's not really much of a change.
     
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    #46
    He'll be the first President who *appears* to be black and that's what's important. The entire history of racial prejudice is based on people judging other people based on the appearance of their skin color. Yes, Barack Obama will be the first black President.

    More importantly, he'll also be the first THINKING President we've had since 2001.
     
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  7. bogart

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    #47
    You state that Obama is the first President that appears to be black and that's what is important. What happens if Obama fails?

    Judging people by the color of their skin leads to the following:

    An assessment of racism in Trinidad notes people often being described by their skin tone, with the gradations being

    "HIGH RED – part White, part Black but ‘clearer’ than Brown-skin:
    HIGH BROWN – More white than Black, light skinned: DOUGLA –part Indian and part Black:
    LIGHT SKINNED, or CLEAR SKINNED Some Black, but more White:
    TRINI WHITE – Perhaps not all White, behaves like others but skin White

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_terminology_for_race
     
    bogart, Dec 23, 2008 IP
  8. winsoar

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    #48
    I think it's all smoke and mirrors. It's very concerning to read how the US are building concentration camps etc.
     
    winsoar, Jan 7, 2009 IP
  9. bogart

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    #49
    America is a nation of whiners. The US has just started a recession after 17 years of growth and the average American is crying for the government to bail them out. Back in the 80's people settled for a 5lb brick of government cheese and now they expect $1500 stimilus checks.

    Should the economy get really bad, I would expect some serious riots. The prisons are already full. So perhaps the camps are military style prison camps.
     
    bogart, Jan 7, 2009 IP
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    Read something that said the main problem with American culture is that we all believe we are special and important when obviously it isn't true.
     
    earthfaze, Jan 7, 2009 IP
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    #51
    China is more advanced technologically but they are more humble, so you don't hear them going- we are the greatest in the whole world!!
     
    Poweremploy, Jan 7, 2009 IP