Obama.. Pregnancy is Punishment

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by diex, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. Supper

    Supper Peon

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    #21
    I don't believe in God unfortunately.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #22
    We used birth control. That's the point. God decides, not you or I. When you are old enough to have sex, you'll find out too!

    In reality, the "higher power" relation to the tsunami could be argued as just given the fact that the majority of people that perished where pirates. Piracy in the region has almost disappeared as a result.
     
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    #23
    My responses are in red...it wouldn't let me post unless I had characters outside the quote. Am I at 10 yet? :)
     
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    #24
    The "majority" of over a hundred thousand people were pirates? Please, try being honest.

    Even if this was true, do you truly believe the reduction in piracy (which is bound to be temporary) is a fair trade for the staggering loss of life?
     
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  5. northpointaiki

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    #25
    Just caught this nonsense. Exactly the same crap that says 9/11 was a "smote" to America, as it allows homosexuality, and other, evil ways of construing one's fellows are somehow wasted by a God with the judgment of a pea and the wisdom of a child.

    Unbelievable. Seeing some behaviors on this forum, less so, now, but still, in this day and age, to hear it, unbelievable.
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #26
    I can't believe that somebody who is smart enough to type in a computer and check emails believes that the tsunami was sent by god to kill a bunch of pirates.
     
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    #27
    Eh, just a poor choice of words.... his message is there, and it's a pretty good one at that.
     
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    #28
    Yeah i just caught this too lol, absolutley insane, and insulting.
     
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    #29
    Sometimes I wonder if Jer is just having a laugh at our expense.
     
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    #30
    I don't think it was a stupid choice of words. Getting pregnant by mistake when you're not ready for it is punishing, not only to you, but to the child, and not only to the child, but to all of us who end up paying through public funding for government funded programs(when I say programs I mean everything from welfare to the court system to the prison system).
     
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    #31
    That might have been more convincing before the 400th post calling Obama a muslim terrorist plant, with information Mia/Jeremy apparently "knows that proves it all to be true."

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=6744062&postcount=252
     
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    #32
    Did you take a pill too or you just trusted her that she "took" one?

    Do you get to decide for anything? So what you're saying is that you are not responsible for the birth of this child, but God is. Is your child Jesus Christ by any chance? Or are you God? Which one is it now, you can't have it both ways.

    I'm old enough to know how when to pull in time and to have protected sex and so far I don't have any surprises like yourself there.

    WOW! Just when I thought your way of thinking could not go any lower. This one just sums up everything about you.
     
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    #33
    Well looking like this (on the left) you can only feel sorry for him really. :eek:

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #34
    I never said I believe that, but the reality is many of them were. You cannot discount the huge decline in piracy as a result.

    Yes. Sadly.

    No, just stating a hypothetical to help with those who reject theological explanations for disasters. Its ok to draw the conclusion that God is evil or, what kind of God would do such a thing, as a result of such a disaster in relation to all the good that many proclaim God does. That said, it is equally logical to draw a conclusion that helps explain such an act.

    Nature is a strange and at times, terrible thing. Many of those (if not all) could have been saved if there was a warning system, and if those that were warned would have heeded that warning. In some cases there was 6+ hours of pre-warning. More than enough time to flee. I only hope that the tragedy is not repeated and proper warning is instituted as a result of the previous tragedy.

    Interesting thoughts. My point, I hope you now understand is that not all pregnancies, no matter what the age or punishment. In many cases they are a blessing, and very rarely do I hear someone say they regret having their children.


    I doubt you just caught it. You are on me like flies on a rib roast. My guess is you get your rocks off hounding me every chance you get. If that makes you happy, whatever. Be my guest.

    Nothing you say surprises me. It keeps me entertained.

    Coming from someone on the DP ban merry-go-round I'll take that with a grain of salt.


    I think you know me better than you let on. ;)

    Like I said, you keep me entertained.

    It's really none of your business.

    Sure, of course I do. I have free will. I did not say I was not responsible for the birth of my child. It's the when, I had no control over. Now your being a jerk.

    I doubt that. "Pull in time". Dude, do you know anything about reproduction? That method is not a form of birth control. You could ejaculate and not even know it. You'll find this out later when you hit puberty.

    Ditto.

    The one on the left, (from my perspective) is Shawn Hogan, owner of this forum.

    I doubt he'd give a rats ass about your comments.
     
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    #35
    He was referring to the Bible.

    Genesis 3:14 says, "So the Lord God said to the serpent, 'Because you have done this, "cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals." You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

    Genesis 3:16 says, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain will you give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
     
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    #36
    Mia - I could not find any stats to back up your claim that most of the tsunami victims were pirates. Would you please provide a reference for this?

    What I did find, however, were reports of tsunami aid ships being attacked by pirates. So, if the tsunami was divine judgment for all these pirates, it didn't really work. I would think an almighty god would be more effective with his judgment. :D
     
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    #37
    This whole thing is ridiculous, in my opinion. The "non-pirates." Given God's "omnipotence" and "omniscience," the innocents lost are a kind of uh, cosmic collateral damage? Not omnipotent, and not omniscient? Lonely, and just needs some more folks to sit in adulation before the golden throne?

    This is the rare time I very definitely have a problem with religion - when it implies a problem for human beings living here and now. Cloaking this as some kind of divine judgment is very definitely one step, perhaps no step, removed from a host of other "righteous" actions exacted upon unfortunates out of the "certainty" that "this is God's will."
     
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    #38
    Oh, I most certainly find it ridiculous as well. But I really would like to know what resource Mia used to formulate such an asinine opinion.

    This is actually one time when I do not have a problem with religion. I would much rather have the faithful use religion to explain natural occurrences then use it to justify human actions...especially those of an abominable nature (like war, murder, discrimination, etc.). With the tsunami, I am content with the knowledge it was the result of a massive underwater earthquake caused by tectonic plate movement. Since geologists are fairly confident tectonic plates are continuously in motion (albeit slowly), I have no need to attribute the effects of this movement to a divine being. But if others feel the need to, so be it.
     
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    #39
    I understand.

    My point is that there is a danger in even this kind of thing - to impute divine wrath to a natural phenomena, to the point of indicating it was "God's judgment that pirates were wiped out" (forgetting the innocents, for the moment), is just too closely aligned with "America is doomed because it allows homosexuality and God Hates Fags" (the Westboro Baptist "Church" crew); itself too closely aligned with "God hates fags - and so a pogrom against them is ordained by God, and I heard him say I am to be Appointee in his interest."

    I'm a helluva lot more comfortable with people who say natural phenomena "is," and in lieu of this, with saying that a being as omniscient and omnipotent as "I Am" would never act like an anthropomorphic tool.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/4242703.stm

    A friend of mine lives in Thailand and was the one that alerted me to this odd bit of good that came from the disaster. As he describes the area, seems like a nice place to live. Great whether, no wind, but lots of rats and bugs. He has no windows in his home, and the stores are the same way. No locks, nothing. Everyone has a bell. If it rings, they're being robbed. Everyone runs to their aid and stones that robber to death. They don't have many robberies.

    I buy all my signs from his dad over at the Volo Auto Mall! Great guy. Visits his son there twice a year. 10 dollar massages, and cheap goods. Reminds me, I need some more signs!
     
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