Obama - Pleasing the world - Punishing America

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Before anyone tells me I'm taking it out of context,


http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/021034.html

Barack Obama Should Scare the ____ Out of You

Posted by Karen De Coster at 02:46 PM

Doesn't Obama get it? Price controls don't work. Regulation, doesn't work. Blaming America, doesn't work.

Why doesn't this guy have a platform of sharing and helping other people up, instead of one criticizing the lifestyle that capitalism and free markets have brought us, and are something we can share with others, not punish ourselves over?

From
Everything You Love You Owe to Capitalism

Excerpt

Socialism is a form of restrained freedoms. The more extreme the socialism, the more scarce freedom becomes. Some people would argue for a little socialism, which is like arguing for a little theft, a little less freedom.

What sane person agrees to relinquish freedom and property to the threat of force?

And to what end? Governments over the last 200 years have proven themselves to be woefully inept at socializing goods and services, or at managing the means of production.

Lew is right, in that the free market accumulation of capital (savings or excess production) gets channeled back into production, development etc and enhances and grows prosperity. We resent the oil companies, but love our pop icons and movie stars. We hate big guzzling vehicles, but no one is lining up to drive a Smart Car.

Obama can f*** off. He's dangerous IMO. I can handle him criticizing the government and past policies, but to question capitalism is disgusting. He's challenging the notion of free will by implying that we have a global collective responsibility. That's a positive right, most of which are logically bankrupt and he is running for the Presidency of the USA, not the Presidency of the world.

 

Republicans don't win elections so much as Democrats lose them. If Obama was legitimately worried about over-consumption maybe he should look at the effect of Keynesian fine-tuning and using a central economic plan with the goal of maximizing demand and consumption. It was socialist tendencies that caused Americans to ignore the efficiencies and savings of the normal business cycle's downturns - now he says we eat too much.

We've come full circle and I fear we're moving into an era of 'feudal socialism,' the aristocracy enriches itself while hiding behind the banner of the needy. That isn't an exact quote, but the term was defined that way by Marx himself.

 

I had a high school teacher who said the same thing, this was pre 9-11 about 8 years ago. He was like we make up 3% of the world's population and yet we consum 25% of the worlds resources and you wondering why people hate us.

 

Yeah, but that's a silly argument, just like "they hate us for our freedoms".

The issue here, is that Obama wants to please the world by making Americans suffer. By handicapping the free market, he's stealing freedom. And the notion that we're going to "save the planet together" or somehow improve the lot of someone in a 3rd world country by riding a bicycle to work is so silly, so juvenile....

 

If you really think about it, it really isn't that silly. If the US by consuming as much as it does, makes prices to go higher. People in poor countries aren't able to afford the same goods and their standard of living falls.

Two why are you surprised by Obama comment, he is one of the more left leaning candidates. A big fan of higher taxation and spending his comments you posted go hand in hand with that level of thinking

 

Not if you understand that the market trends naturally towards equilibrium.

Demand will increase to meet higher prices, and achieve price stability.

Besides, you don't think bullying them into World Bank loans, assassinating leaders, bombing and invading various countries, and rigging elections might have just a little bit to do with it?

I'm surprised he is shooting his mouth of right now, I've been reading that he may yet lose the nomination. I had a feeling he was a globalist, but to say stuff like this is just plain stupid.

 

That's what this whole d@mn "green" movement is about. Fckin tards, it's just another media thing to get the really really dumb people to WANT people like obama to come in and control everything.

Ya know, if people on my side are smart enough we can use this whole global stupidity movement against them.

Luckily for myself, I'll be living off the grid pretty soon and won't need to pay the carbon tax. But I know it'll effect me, that's economics.

 

It's true that Americans need to consume less and live within their means rather than expecting government handouts to support their consumption. Rather than regulation we need free markets and to take away the government subsidies.

 

People will do what they want with their money and suffer any consequences.

 

Wow, those things were supposed to scare me? It sounds like what any thoughtful person would say.

 

Yeah, like Stalin or Chairman Mao.

 

Being concerned with the world is rational. We do have to share it, you know? This is it. It's time to come to terms with reality - We can't keep living big mac SUV lives and think that it has no effect on the world.

 

If that concerns you then it is a societal problem. We are a land of consumers thanks to faulty economics.

This soccer mom sh*t that you speak of and hate so much might be a result of insulating people and protecting them from themselves, letting them live beyond their means.

NOT CREATED BY A FREE MARKET. That's created by a debt market, a McCain market, a Keynesian market. McCain doesn't even know wtf economics is!


The only thing you have done was identified a problem, there is no proof whatsoever that restricting people like Obama will, would help anything! Has anyone here considered doing things simple?! Like try and use a system that worked for America for a couple hundred years and was the primary reason for mass f*cking immigration to the States?

 

The President's obligation is to the homeless and poor in America. It is to the Veterans living on the streets. It is to the taxpayers, the past and future generations.

It is not to the Indians, the Chinese the Africans, the Europeans or anyone else.

If Obama wants to run for PM of the EU, that's different. As President of the United States, his job is to the American citizen, including their choices in the market place, above any foreign national or nation.

That's the problem with socialist liberals. Always looking to solve someone else's problems, never deal with their own.

 

But...but... but... al gore buys carbon credits to off set his carbon footprint!

I have a feeling that you (guerilla) is one of the few here who understands how ludicrous the whole carbon credit system is. But that probably works for food too, al gore and the likes eat 10 times as much as needed and buy food credits from the poor starving people in Africa since they can't use them there.

 

Hyper-environmentalism is the new Cold War. Carbon footprint? Is the earth filled with silicon-based lifeforms?

The problem is, the wacked out loons like Obama, Gore etc have been able to sell the idea of global warming, when the science doesn't bear it out.

Forgive me for continually posting froM LewRockwell, but they syndicate some columnists I really like, and these are nationally syndicated writers with their material found in major news agencies worldwide.

A Cooling World
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese456.html

 

Global cooling and the inevitable Ice Age I would figure are much bigger threats to humanity. We'll actually be looking for ways to keep the earth warm in the future.

 

I dont mean to be disrespectful but, people hate Bush becuase he wants to give fair chances to other nations, and eradicate poverty and free the people of the world and all the other bullshit he comes out with.

ONLY HE DOES IT WITH MILITARY... yet obama wants to do something substantial like literally making people put there 'money where there mouth is', by being less selfish and sharing as well as doing something about pollution... which is the only NON-MILITARY ROUTE TO WORLD JUSTICE

Im kind of confused about this, you being a Ron Paul supporter,.. yet not liking the fact that people can Blame america for being the highest polluter.(in many senses as well as carbon-dioxide)?

i dont know but i may have missed something anyway...

as far as im concered america has gotten to a place where it needs help from any one other than bush, whether hes black or white.

Ron Paul was the best other candidate but the zionists didnt like him so he didnt get no media attention, obama has got to be the last choice. imo

 

People like Ron Paul because he stands for everything America is supposed to live by. Don't mistake this for some international lovey-dovey movement that wants "anything" other than what we have now. That movement is called Obama '08. Don't confuse the two.

We know what we want, it's freedom. We also stand for free-markets and do not appreciate socialism or any type of authoritative government.

And contrary to popular thought around these boards, we're not a blame America first group. We blame faulty principles. Understand the theories then decide which candidate or group is right for you.

 

Typical for you to blame Jews because Ron Paul was not popular. That seems to be your answer for anything not going your way. You look to blame Jews. You know, there is a word for people like you.