Obama nominates Hispanic judge to Supreme Court

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ganpat, May 26, 2009.

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    President Obama will nominate Judge Sonia Sotomayor of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit as his first appointment to the court, officials said Tuesday, and has scheduled an announcement for 10:15 a.m. at the White House.

    http://www.whois-barack-obama.com/
     
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  2. touchAshley

    touchAshley Active Member

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    President Clinton nominated her as well. This would be the first hispanic woman on the supreme court.
     
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  3. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    Seriously? Why the need to use the race of someone when describing them? Who cares?
     
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    Reseg Peon

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    The OP is looking for a reason to promote his site.

    ...but yeah the race thing is silly. What will they look for in their "firsts" after all races have done everything?

    "The FIRST boxer-wearing black person weighing over 280 lbs sat in row C99, seat 137 of the stadium. Before today the only people over 280 lbs wearing boxers to sit in row C99, seat 137 were a white, hispanic, and asian. The world will never be the same."
     
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  5. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    lol I didn't even notice that, I just saw the title and had to post my thoughts on that subject....

    lame attempt to get traffic though. NO ONE CARES.
     
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  6. Zibblu

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    So did George H.W. Bush. And 9 current Republican Senators have already voted to confirm her in the past.

    If the GOP tries to make a big deal out of this one they are going to look even more foolish than usual.

    Consider: Sotomayor has more experience than any SC nominee of the last 100 years.
     
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    jkjazz Peon

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    But the Supreme court keeps overthrowing her decisions. Can you find the silverlining in that?
     
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    Codythebest Notable Member

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    Yeah, just an attempt to get traffic on his/her Obama site. Looks like he/she's an Obama fan...as we all are...at least, can't be worse than the other dude....
     
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    Maybe the GOP couldn't make a big deal out of her when
    HW was president two decades ago.

    When was this youtube video of her talking about judical policy made...?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-qUvI6WFo
     
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    that will never stop them. don't forget that bnthey were proud that that palin and bush are one of them. he/she is one of us they kept on saying. now if that is not admitting to stupidity then what is.
     
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    Depending upon whose figures you look at, between 22% and 28% of the US population are Catholics.

    Five of the present Justices on the Supreme Court are Catholic. Now, if Sotomayor is confirmed, six Catholics would completely control the Court.

    That's pretty disproportionate to the US population, isn't it?

    I wonder - how will this affect the next abortion case heard before the Court?
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    "I don't believe we should bend the Constitution under any circumstance"
    Sonia Sotomayor during her 1997 confirmation hearing

    Doesn't that sound like she's a strict constructionist? Of course she's a conservative. She going to upset the balance of the Supreme Court.
     
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    George H.W. Bush nominate Souter to the Supreme Court.:mad:

    Obama voted against both Roberts and Alito. Further, Obama lead a filbuster against Alito.

    Perhaps the Republicans will repay the favor :cool:

    They will need at least one Republican vote to get Sotomayor out of committe. Since Arlen Spector defected to the dems, Obama may not get that vote. ;)
     
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    HAHAHAHA! Oh God. You guys seriously don't look into the facts behind any of these right wing talking points do you?

    She's had 3 of her 5 cases that have made it before the SC overturned. To someone who doesn't know anything about how this works that may sound bad.

    But you have to consider that SC usually only takes cases that it thinks it may overturn. The other 99% it doesn't look at in the first place.

    So guess how many of their cases the SC overturns on average? Come on! Go for it buddy! HA! So cute. The answer is 75%. So yes she was actually overturned less often than average in her 5 cases (not that that's a huge sample size the whole concept of using this as a litmus test in the first place is ridiculous.)

    Oh and if you still don't get how ridiculous your "point" is yet: Alito had 2 cases before the SC when he was in her position. They were both overturned! HA HA HA! Alito = 100% overturned.

    Next time I beg of you to have at least some idea of what you are talking about before you try to make a "point."
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    No. Wrong. Again.

    The Supreme Court looks at 100% of the cases brought before it. It only brings before the bench cases where important matters of law need to be settled. The rest are addressed as well. 100% of the cases brought to the court are "looked at in the first place".

    So, if a judge has had 3 out of 5 cases overturned by the Supreme Court at the bench, that means that of the cases that judge had gone to the court, only five were significant matters of law. And of those five, the judge was WRONG in three of them. Hardly something to be proud of.

    Of the cases that the Court decides to not bring to the bench, they don't just toss them out as Zibblu would have us believe. Opinions are written explaining why the Court decided not to bring it to the bench. Often, it's because the lower court's ruling was so obviously correct that interpreting the law is too trivial for the Court's time. These are called Term Opinions. By definition, they agree with the lower court's ruling. They vastly outnumber the fraction of cases that the Court overturns, despite what Zibblu thinks.
     
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    Alberto Gonzales was the nation's first Hispanic attorney general.

    36 Democrats voted against the historic US Attorney General.
     
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    Gonzalez was an embarrassment to Hispanics and to Conservatives. It is no honor for those that voted for him.
     
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    Zibblu, most of your posts at least make sense, and generally are more than just opinoin..and the facts, are usually correct.

    However, your post is completely ludicrous.

    I cite Heller v. DC as an example of them affirming the decision of a Circuit Court. That is just one of the many.

    There are many, many more, I just don't have the time to look for them.
     
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    hostlonestar - yes. They affirm the decision of a circuit court about 25% of the time. How does that in any way refute my point? My point is that having 3 of her 5 decisions is overturned is in NO WAY unusual. In fact it's actually slightly better than average.

    Alito (who is a favorite of most conservatives) actually had his 2 decisions that made it to the SC both overturned. So that's a head to head sample. Sotomayor was 2 for 5 and Alito 0 for 2. The fact that this is being trumped up by loonies on the right wing as a mark against Sotomayor shows how out of touch with basic reasoning skills those people are. If you don't get why this is ridiculous after all of these points then... What else can be said?

    The one who isn't making sense is you. What is the point of your post?
     
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    Wow. Try some reading comprehension friend. That's exactly what I said. 99% of the cases are so obvious that they don't bother with them in the first place! That's the whole point. That means when you look at all of the cases Sotomayor decided actually over 99% (99.2% to be exact) were agreed upon by the SC.

    And again that 3 out of 5 number is in no way unusual. The average is 75% for those that the SC takes up. Alito had both of his overturned. She had 60% overturned. RESPOND TO THIS PART. This is where I completely and utterly destroyed any semblence of a talking point.

    You. Lost. The. Debate. Admit. It. It. Is. Embarrassing. For. You.
     
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